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Old 11-14-2005 | 07:37 PM
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These things are beefy Stock axles in back. DSS was awsome about it and installed my inner CV joints from my stock axles for free.
Old 11-14-2005 | 08:06 PM
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How much for the Level 5 Axles?
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Nice pics....the Level5's are nutty strong. We are warehouse distributors for Drive Shaft Shop. You can buy them here. http://www.forgedinternals.com/store...cat=261&page=1

Level 2's are rated at 500whp, and the Level5's at 800whp. Both of those numbers are underated, so I would be really surprised if the Level 5's can't take at least 1000whp. Have fun!!
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Sharif,

If you are still out there... I just blew my brand new Level5 axles on the track... 2nd run and BOOM... It looks like the inner CV exploded. Any ideas on how to address the problem? It does us no good if the axle is rated for 800 whp and the CV joints explode at 550 whp.

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Old 05-28-2006 | 09:32 PM
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that.....would be a problem. wow, im looking forward to seeing this solution. BTW, nice car BamBam, i saw it at zdayz.
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Not good.
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thos do look beefy!

any strengthening at the inner CV available????
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Thanks TIG...

I am talking to Sharif now, and I will talk with AAM/DSS Tuesday when everyone is open and the diff/axle has been disassembled and diagnosed.
Hopefully it will be something simple to solve.
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staying tuned.
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im glad I read this.
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Alright guys, here is the skinny.

I blew apart the inner CV on the drivers side (left axle). It actually blew into about 10 pieces and tore up some of the splines on the axle itself. We are looking into whether o r not the axle needs to be replaced under the 1 year warranty. I have spoken to some guys at DriveshaftShop and while they say this setup has been proven on a # of 700 – 800 whp racing cars, all of the test platforms have been true race cars, IE lightened, with the average weight around 2500lbs and quite a few under 2,000 lbs. I am not sure if anyone has tested a high HP ‘Street’ car with DR’s slicks on a hot day.

As it sits now, not only does no one make an upgraded inner CV joint, but to replace the inner CV with another stock one, looks to require buying a new rear and pulling the CV joints. The thought now is to weld the axle to the inner CV therefore seriously reducing the chances it will implode from driveline shock.

I am awaiting a call back from Frank at DSS and hearing back from AAM on sourcing a new inner CV joint.

I hope to have some pictures soon to better explain the damages.

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I want to make sure everyone understands under NORMAL use, there is nothing wrong with these axles. The Axles and the outer CV joint are heavily reinforced from DriveshaftShop. These are warranted for any damage and none of these parts have failed. The issue is with the inner CV, and as of right now no one makes an upgraded part for this. I have a strong suspicion the reason mine broke is due to the weight of my car (almost 3,800 lbs), the heat (85+ that day and almost 100 on the track at that time), and most importantly I was trying a new launching method for the DR’s and I can only guess I must have at least partially dumped the clutch.
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Here are some quick pics of the busted CV joint....

as you can see the inside sort of shattered....
Attached Thumbnails Level 5 axles-brent-axle-01.jpg   Level 5 axles-brent-axle-02.jpg   Level 5 axles-brent-axle-04.jpg  
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maybe its just a freak occurrence, might have been dropped or something and had a hairline fracture. good luck keep us updated.
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quit a few days from last post but id like to hear updates on this plz... whats the deal... is DSS going to start doing anythign to their level 5 axels from now on to help the support of the inner cv?
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
quit a few days from last post but id like to hear updates on this plz... whats the deal... is DSS going to start doing anythign to their level 5 axels from now on to help the support of the inner cv?
They have made several revisions, and have significantly strengthened them. The new versions are pretty much unbreakable, and right now there is a 3-4 week leadtime on them.

Funny thing, is I still havent broken my Level2's, and AJ just ran an 11.0 with STOCK axles. I think the driver/launch technique might have something to do with the breakages.


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