I think the ideal conditions for the shootout would be to close an actual street and try it there. Test a street driven car in street conditions.

And as per lack of low end torque, think of it this way, save at least 3500-4000 bucks worth of parts/labor and add that to the motor budget. Add that to the bottom end part and insted of spending 2500 on rods and pistons you can get the whole AEBS 4.3L Stroker. Do you really think that the low end would be an issue then?

 

if only the stroker kit were that easy. Unfortunately there's a LOT more involved than that. It'd be more like $15-$20k by the time it's all done with the parts, labor, standalone EMS, labor, custom tuning, more labor etc. You might also run into overheating issues because there's only 1 lone coolant channel per cylinder instead of many - if you were to drive it for any real length of time.

Not to mention if something goes wrong with your now extremely rare and expensive to repair engine. Pray AEBS always has parts available and never goes out of business in case something happened to the stroked and custom tuned engine

 

OK, scrap that bright idea...

 

Hmm where is that vid with the Z with the aps tt and teh G with the stillen.

 

the stillen kit isn't a SC I'd get. IMO it's completely what you don't want in a FI kit other than for simple bolt on power with a warrenty

 

Well if you go off of the test it performed very well.

 

You have PM!

 

Now that comparesment just did not fair. You know, maybe someone should put a Turbonator into a Viper, beat up a whole lot of yous and claim that the Turbonator is the greated power upgrade.

 

It's funny how many threads are filled with the same discussion over and over again. I don't know if it helps or hurts. My only suggestion is to try and hook-up with people that have TT's and SC's. See if you can get a ride or drive it yourself. They feel completely different so it should be pretty easy to decide which suits your taste more. The hard part is finding comparable Z's. You can't take a ride in a 450rwhp TT car and a 400rwhp SC car or vice versa and expect to get an idea of how they perform against one another.

 

My fellow New Yorkers and New Jersiers or New Jersians or New Jersyites!
Who wants to let me drive your turbo'd or sc'd Z or G?

 

There you go Oleg!

 

I went with the Vortech because it's CARB exempt. Plain and simple. I don't have time to run around and try to find someone that will pass my car when it comes time to smog. And I didn't want to spend all that money and worry about having my car taken away by the cops.

I'm very happy with my car. Pulls great, got the silencer on the BOV, no crushing walnuts, and no headaches.

BTW... Lou was a big help in answering alot of my questions regarding the Vortech before I did it. Thanks again Lou! VORTECH KING! I love it!

 

My opinion is
supercharger = cheap price little power
ST = Mid price Mid power
TT = Expensive price lots of power

I have decided to go with a TT becouse im a horsepower freak and want to go with alot of power in the future.

 

475rwhp is hardly little power and I'm not done yet!

 

Anytime Adolfo

 

OK, got a ride in a Vortech'd car today. This thing was pulling like an MF, spun the tyres trough first and some of the second and that's with the original split second box. I did not hear any excessive or annoying noises, it sounded great actually. I, personnaly, liked the sound better then the APS TT I heard the other day . There were no "check engine" lights and the idle/cruise felt hardly different from stock. If this is little power, then I don't need big power. I have a strong suspicion that I have just found my kit. The car had just enough power not to lose traction and I am not planning to switch to slicks.
As LouZer has shown it, there is plenty of room to grow on it. I won't need to worry about my automatic downshifting in a turn and the abrupt pile of torque sending of the road backwards, not to mention that the lower torque will let me keep my 5AT a bit longer. As far as I could tell from the passenger seat, the car felt like it kept the stock motor, but lost about a 1000 pounds in curb weight.
So either I am the only grandma in a room full of Shumachers or some of you guys are trying to bite off more then you can swallow. I am not a race car driver, I'm a blood banker. Let the racers race and I will be in charge of transusing them after they wrap themselves around a tree (seen some of those too). Either way, to me, there are 4 types of drivers:

-ones who enjoy driving the car
-ones who get paid to drive the car
-ones who own a shop and need a demo vehicle to show what they are capable of
-ones who are trying to be everyone's hero

I would like to be in the first category. Mine will not be the fastest Z here but I will definately be one of the most satisfied drivers and that is what counts. The last thing I want is a mega-whp dyno queen that can only shine on a dragstrip or a dyno and the rest of the time needs to be driven at 1/10th throttle and god forbid to press the accelerator 2mm too much. I'd rather have my fun with a reasonably fast and forgiving car.

 

actually the S/C and ST cost bout the same price and can lay down about the same hp..............ST can creat one hell of a beast not just TT........

you maybe a hp freak but it looks like you still need to do your home work

 

There are single turbo Supras that make 1000+ whp (one can only imagine the lag...), hell there are 800whp 4G63's (no TT on those either)

 

awesome man, nice review too

you really can't go wrong with any kit so long as you get the kit that best suits what you're wanting.
I for one have seen a lot of people on the forums spend BIG cash - like 30-50k on a monster TT setup, and they're still hitting mid 11'a or maaaaybe lowish 11's on the drag strip. There's only been like 1 or 2 people (maybe a couple more) that have hit 10's that are still a street legal car. I dunno, that really tells me that having a ton of power is pretty awesome on the highway, but it isn't making them much faster down the 1/4 mile. I know a lot of the hardcore TT people will say it's all about skill with a good launch etc, but I dunno, I don't think the Z is set up for launching worth a crap anyway.

It just gets so expensive to basically reengineer the car to handle 600+whp. huge brake kits, heavy duty axels, drag radials, forged engine, etc. It's more money than I care to spend or think is really worthwhile. A guy who owns a camaro can spend 5k and get into the 11's on street tires and not have such a hard time launching - as in most people could do it. Seems rediculous to spend 30-50k on modding the Z to maybe get into the 11's on race tires and yet suffer at cornering. I wouldn't feel safe pushing 600+whp thru a corner and going fast unless it was a flat out race car like an F1 or something. Even the high hp supercars have rediculously huge tires or AWD.

 

Thank you, sir!
You'll have a blast with the Vortech, mark my words.