Good one!

 

There is no misinformation going on anywhere. The guy can claim to have 5 or 10, or whatever....he does not. TXS themselves has told you he has none.

As for the group buy, again, you can post a TXS group buy all you want. Posting a group buy and taking a list of names does not ensure, nor even help you to get the units any faster. If TXS does not want you to have a unit, dealer or not, you won't get one. It might sound elitist, but in reality, it's not. Instead, it is ensuring that the shops who GET utec's are shops that can support the product, and improve the knowledge base, not just ship units out the door.

TXS is a firm that values it's legacy to a community - if they were concerned with sales, believe me, they could tell their dealers that none were in stock and post their inventory direct to the public (and undercut ANY of their dealers at any point). Instead, they choose to be picky about who can sell a ZUTEC. As a consumer, you should be equally picky about who you get one from.

 

I agree 100%...there is a big difference between advertising a UTEC for sale, and actually having a shipable unit in stock.

 

APS pretty much is the same way.

 

Seller just called and said he made a mistake when his distributer told him they where instock. He is currently removing the items,. and has reread the Turboxs agreement about ebay. Very nice guy just he wanted to straighten it out by saying him as a seller was miss imformed by his distributer and whoever has sent a payment has and or will be refunded asap. He also stated that all the sellers are making a pretty penny reselling this UTEC which is understandable being sellers of this item

 

That guy is F.O.S., he knew about the Ebay agreement yet he has been selling WRX stuff on there for a while,he just now got called out..
We personally took delivery of 6 out of 25 pre-orered units and sold out same day FYI. TX wants the first batch of units to go to tuner shops that can actually help in developing maps and giving technical support to customers as well as feedback to TX on the performance of the units...The product can be really dangerous in the wrong hands, and TX does not want their reputation tarnished in any way..
I can respect TX on their position to support and protect their dealers that have invested in their product.If only all companies were like this..
As far as Z Utecs, I am pretty sure Adam from Z1,AAM and myself will be getting these units faster than any other TX dealers, due to our close proximity to TX as well as our knowledge of the 350Z platform...It will be a while before basement online stores get their hands on them..

 

Believe me, no one is getting rich off selling UTEC's. That's the thing with an engine management product. The transaction does not end when the unit is shipped out the door - it's just beginning. As a buyer, you WILL have tech questions about this piece. You will want to be speaking to someone who has tuned the unit before to be at the other end of the phone (or counter) explaining what to do and how to progress with your tuning goals. That level of support is something you only get from a select few dealers - and hence why those are the very same dealers who are actually able to get the product in the first place.

 

Totally respectable

 

Agreed!! Well said by all vendors!! Also for any tunning inquires you can check at www.turboxs.com under dealers and They will have the authorized tunner badge by their name!!!!
Now everyone be done with this bickering and lets all be friends and enjoy whats left of 2005 and start of 2006 with a BANG!!!!

 

Just read the seller's reply email. Very nice guy. ditto what was said by nissansource. i have cancelled my order because i did not want to wait such a long time for it, plus all the other stuff that was discussed. i will get it from a vendor on this forum. although this did not work out the way i had hoped, the seller (as far as he knew) was sincere. He has offered me my full refund in which i will obviously accept. now i guess i need to get on that long a$$ list!

 

i had a distributor ship a few years ago for a home product. most all of the terms and conditions in their "distributor agreement" is to protect the vendors, not the manufacturer! turboxs would love to sell 1 million of these utecs any dam way they could. but in respect for the distributors, limitations need to be set.
as far as not covering warranty no matter how a customer acquired the unit would be shooting themselves in the foot!!! turboxs gains nothing but negatives if they turn away a customer that owns their unit. not sure if turboxs sets territories for it distributors, but most everything discussed so far would only relate to territory infringement, like ebay or selling their products worldwide from a few non-listed distributors.
honestly, do a search for turboxs on ebay. think turboxs wants to cut out all that business!!! hahaha. they obviously don't want to stop it, they get a ton of product out the door!! nothing wrong with it, just doing business. unless there are teritorries, then someone should be MAD.

 

i have received a refund already. maybe this guy was doing this illegaly and knew it or maybe he was doing in it ignorance, what matters to me is that i got my money back with no fuss or fight whatsoever. i am glad this happened with someone legit, albeit some of you might not think so.

 

Granted it is only "a freaking car computer," but it is also an important part of our livelihood. If we decided to start shipping units to shops like www.dormroomracing.com we'd be in a world of hurt because the early adopters would likely have a bad UTEC experience due to the lack of customer support provided by their dealer. The owner of www.dormroomracing.com could not provide proper tech support from his cell phone on the way to his PE final. Since the early adopters also tend to be quite vocal and influential on message boards such as this one, it is important for us to limit access to shops that are actually going to go the extra mile to ensure that these customers are very happy with their purchase. We would like to get to a point where the zUTEC is a very good revenue stream, and we can’t get there without the help of a competent dealer base.

The only other alternative is for us to not sell the units through dealers at all and just to deliver every unit directly. The problem with this is that we would miss out on the feedback that a few quality dealers could provide. Because of this, we have chosen to limit the distribution to dealers that can truly help.

The zUTEC dealers have been handpicked. Not every TurboXS dealer has access to the product. The product will have to be well established in the z market before we take the risk of delivering them to shops that are only interested in cranking out sales.

In addition, the zUTEC has to fit into the production schedule with all the other electronics that we manufacture. Because we are doing all testing and assembly in-house, (all but the production and stuffing of the PCBs) our current production capacity is stretched thin.

Trust me when I say that we would love to sell one of these to every 350z/g35 owner on the planet. Our goal is not to turn away sales, but we have to look at the strategic importance of each and every sale in the light of our long term goals. For now we have to move very slow and cautious in this market, because you guys figure to be an important part of our growing business, and we want to ensure that you have the best possible experience with TurboXS. The zUTEC is just the beginning.

 

Nathan - thanks for contributing the "from the horses mouth" perspective on your vacation

 

Well said Nathan thats why Utec will be in my car b/c of the support you and all the dealers are providing

 

This would never hold up in court. I would contact THE ATTOURNEY GENERAL and I bet it won't fly with him.

I don't agree with where it is purchased from, but I do agree with it being Installed/programmed by a reputable shop that knows what they are doing.

I'm talking about the purchase only here.

Don't you guys have control over you're own product???

One of you're so called hand picked guys is selling it to someone who in turn sells it on ebay, or they are selling it them selves on ebay.

Aren't you going to even investigate??????

I think you are in for more trouble than you think unless you FIX the situation.

What if they take it up with EBAY!!

EBAY is a multi billion dollar company that could put you out of buisiness, not only because of there lawyers but there advertising POWER!!

I would get to the botom of this immediatly if you don't want to hassle with this!!

Nevermind i read the post!!! Sorry!!!

BUT.....................................

They are still selling them on e-bay.

You still need to look into this!

 

I just got my UTEC in today and will be tuning it with it later this week

 

Have fun Z1

 

danimaldaisy - maybe you missed the part where the guy on Ebay has since rescinded his for sale ad, after admitting that:

1. he did not have units in his possession to sell
2. that his supplier did not have units in their possession to sell
3. just because you see something for sale on ebay (or anywhere else for that matter) does NOT mean they actually have it to send to you, nor do they have any hopes of having one to send to you in the near future.


They have very strict control over who is able to sell a UTEC...not every TXS dealer has access at this point to the zUTEC - only those dealers that TXS designated to. The reason was as Nathan and several others stated - so that the tuners can begin building a database of base maps, and tune a variety of different cars with different mods in different climates on different gas and start to share that knowledge with the Z community (and thus, potential customers). This is how they have launched every UTEC to date and it's worked very very well.

 

You're the man, Nathan. Feel free to post here more often!









Oh btw, I actually clicked on www.dormroomracing.com