Well I have my gauges and am about 2 days from ordering the emanage ult. So now im looking into turbos. Ive been thru post after post reading all the before/after reviews i could read... but nothing meets what im looking for so far, xcept the JWT TT kit but thats way out of my range until it goes into the market.

Anyways my ideal range would be 350-400whp on no more then 10psi
Now as far as single compared to twin turbo, of course id want the twin cause it sounds better the just fits the 350z name (350z twin turbo) sounds beautiful doesnt it? Anyways well im sitting on a range of cash between 7-9k and i NEED reliability, im young so yes i will race/track the hell out of it and this will be my car for the next 3 or so years... so i need something that will last and get me thru without having a blown motor/and major problems etc... Well thanks for all the advice/opinions they are all welcome from the flames to the real down cold advice

 

APS ST - this is the kit for you. Reliability out of box, right in your HP range, just need to add the exhaust and you are set and you could get everything installed and tuned for under 9K.

 

What are you looking for? Did I read that you must have a TT setup?

Why EU and no UTEC???

Respect
JET

 

And might I add that ordering the EU would be a VERY unwise decision if you have yet to determine which setup you will get.

 

Oh well to comment to jet first, the TT comment is irrelevent really, im looking for reliability that hits my ranges, whether it be ST or TT. But the EU and UTEC (price) is my main concern why

And Ziv i talked to shariff and we discussed that it would be a good idea... i may be missing something? sorry you know about my unwise decisions haha

 

talked to him about what?

The aps setup comes with a more than capable unichip EMS - NO NEED for emanage

For any other setup, Greddy or even :cringe: TN, I would recommend the utec EMS.

buy the kit first and decide on the ems aftwards. Not like they are going to run out of EU units.

 

I forgot more about 350z's and FI in that last 30 seconds than you know right now.

Edit:

To think, less than a month ago you were pondering over **THIS** And now you are ready to make the jump into a ST/TT setup

 

Turbo'ed Z wont last for 3 years or so!!

 

The UTEC + a boost control solenoid + MAP sensor + install should cost less than the EU + boost controller + Autosport wiring harness + install. The UTEC is a much better tuning solution.

All the kits are reliable. They all seem to have their own potential issues. It depends what issues you want to deal with.

My choice would be the Turbonetics tuner kit + UTEC + 510 injectors + aftermarket exhaust + clutch.

Respect
JET

 

^^^^But he already knew that

 

Previous response revoked and I put this response in it's place: "Oh."

Respect
JET

 

i think Zivman was being sarcastic, it seems that he doesnt really like this kid, I mean the guy is buying and engine managment system with out even have the turbo kit or sc kit in his hand.... hes 19 in school, and wants to turbo his car... I dont recommend it.

I am 20, make pretty good money for my age ( obviously dont go to school )and never thought i was going to go this far with my Z... Here I am.... 35K later.....

 

For FI tuning most shops and TurboXS recommend a turner reg or turner pro which will raise the price of equipment and install considerably.

 

I am not of fan of the APS single kits, primarily due to lack of tuning options, (UNICHIP only), and issues I have discussed with customers about the oil surge pump setup, and the problems people are encountering. I havent been following the progress on the APS ST kits, becuase frankly, the demand has been very soft for them.

For your budget and power goals, I think the Turbonetics kit is a good solution for you. At 350-400whp, an EU can certainly meet your needs, but the UTEC is a more precise platform. It is a little bit more expensive, however, once you factor in the UTEC, the Tuner, MAP Sensor, Install (yes people....we don't install the UTEC, the Tuner, and MAP Sensor for free ).

Any plans in the future to build the motor, or go for more power??

 

^^^The power of the forums in action. In all honesty, you don't think in terms of people buying the kit from you that all the forum BS contributed to the soft demand?

I installed a kit and and guess what, the car ran awesome. Yes, there are more tuning options on somthing like a utec. When the reality of it is, that I don't want just anyone tuning my car because they are 10 miles from my house, finding a good tuner usually means finding a tuner that can tune unichip as well. The oil issues have been resolved and to be frank, were WAY over exagerated on this forum.

Sharif, I know you know your stuff, but frankly to hear you recommending the TN kit hurts your credibility at least in my eyes. We don't need a big TN vs APS debate as I have said my peace as have others.

 

^^^and let's give this guy a round of applause for actually understanding my posts.

Thanks bud

 

I don't think so. I think the soft demand has to do with the first 25 kits that sold. Not many people posted and raved about them like with the APS TT kit. Also on most the ST kits they aren't producing numbers like APS adverstised. Heck in most cases the ST owners don't even post dynos. APS hit a grandslam with the TT kit, but with the ST they struck out IMO.

 

390-400 whp is what I think is what people are seeing after a tune. APS' site shows 386 hp dynos, so I don't see the kits not producing like advertised.

And the fact that not many post dyno sheets is the forum in action, or more correctly stated, lack of action.

It is hard for the ST kit to live up to big brother, but after seeing, installing, and driving the ST kit, it is every bit as good as the TT setup.... but obviously at a lower HP.

 

So his credibility was hurt in your opinion because he didnt recommend an APS kit ? You have got ot be the biggest APS nuthugger on these boards. Just because he doesnt recommend the APS ST kit doesnt mean hes saying its a POS. Just that you can buy a TN kit + Piggyback for same price of an APS single and most likely not have any issues with the car-and have a well tuned Z within the limits of what this guy is looking for. Whats so hard to understand about that...if anything your getting ridiculous with your APS vs TN posts and its you who is losing credibility with other Z owners. I dont care what you like or dont like but it gets annoying reading it in every damn post.

 

Did I say that???

NO. I said he lost credibility because he recommended the TN kit.

By the way, you get all your issues resolved with your TN setup? How does 3.5 lbs of boost feel??