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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Who is making over 450whp on the stock block?
What are you dyno'in? with what kit, and who did your tune?

I'm debating buying a Z again and I'd like to know where the limit of the motor are right now with good tuning.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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Some guy has over 550 rwhp on his stock block on this forum. I don't know what he is doing though.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by craigo'sznprgrs
Some guy has over 550 rwhp on his stock block on this forum. I don't know what he is doing though.
bigbri, he's running an aps tt w/ water/meth injection amongst other things...

The vast majority of the 450+ whp stock block setups utilize the one of the tt setups. There are a handful (1 or 2) vortech guys past the 450 mark, and I have seen a few claims for some st's being past that point, but nothing substantiated yet...
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NinetyFiveVRsix
Who is making over 450whp on the stock block?
What are you dyno'in? with what kit, and who did your tune?

I'm debating buying a Z again and I'd like to know where the limit of the motor are right now with good tuning.

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from what ive seen, there really is no safe limit for the block once u go f/i. some will say 450, others 350. no matter what your power output it seems like there is a possibility for failure. obviously the higher your power the more likely it is.

the best advice anyone could give u is, be prepared to rebuild the engine if u go fi. so long as u already have the $$$ in the bank for it, its not going to surprise u as much. nothing hurts me more than seeing some poor guy blow his motor and have to sell his car cuz he cant afford to fix it.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Basically I'd like to see 450-500whp on the stock block.
Otherwise I'm gonna consider getting a used 03/04 Cobra instead of a Z.
So I would like to know if it's possible with liek a Greddy or APS Twin kit and the right tuning.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Exactly what he said, I have almost 22k on a stock block with 440whp or higher. So who knows what the limit is. I wish someone could find the culprit.

Originally Posted by PoWeRtRiP
from what ive seen, there really is no safe limit for the block once u go f/i. some will say 450, others 350. no matter what your power output it seems like there is a possibility for failure. obviously the higher your power the more likely it is.

the best advice anyone could give u is, be prepared to rebuild the engine if u go fi. so long as u already have the $$$ in the bank for it, its not going to surprise u as much. nothing hurts me more than seeing some poor guy blow his motor and have to sell his car cuz he cant afford to fix it.

my 0.02
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Sure it's possible. BigBri has 550 rwhp on the stock block.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by barthelb
Exactly what he said, I have almost 22k on a stock block with 440whp or higher. So who knows what the limit is. I wish someone could find the culprit.
22k with the kit on, or total mileage on the car?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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I have 516xx miles on the car and almost 22k miles since the kit went on.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Wow thats great Bart-big power and you've had it for a long time. Who tuned your car?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Even if you have to spend the money on a built block it is still better than a Cobra. I bought mine with a Greddy and the engine blew, so I parked it for almost a year and a half until I could do the engine right. I did and then I got in an accident. Needless to say now VRT is building my car and it will be a monster!! A Z you love is better than any other car. Sooooo much potential. Get the Z and wait until you can build it right. It is worth it, that is why I ended up with another.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Seems like everyone already knows....550whp for me......
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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ZcarGarage tuned mine, they are in San Jose. I've had 2 tunes. Well, technically 3 tunes. They gave me my car back with cats, apsTT and cams and it made 410whp/414wtrq, then they retuned it for Testpipes and 8.5 psi and i had 440whp/410wtrq in Jan. 05, then in Sept. 05 i started getting boost spikes to 11psi so i had them check out my tune and they were gonna test the APS tallboy for me. They put it on the dyno and it turned 488whp/450wtrq so they tuned it for 9.5psi and now it makes 462whp/445wtrq. When my motor finally gets here I will retune for 10.5psi and run the Motordyne plenum spacer and APS 3.5" downpipes and see what happens. I think she has about 50whp more left in her before i start getting into any problems.

Im debating tho, because I really need the 3.3 Final Drive and will need tires in about 2-5k miles depending on how the weather is. So, I may just wait for all that.

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Wow thats great Bart-big power and you've had it for a long time. Who tuned your car?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Dude, your known around the whole country. When someone hears 550 they say "What about Brian".

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Seems like everyone already knows....550whp for me......

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Yeah i was at 345rwhp for about 15k miles, then for the past 6k miles been at 424rwhp, and no problems. I have 28k on the car, 21k of which are FI
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Maybe I should create the 20,000+Mile FI Club, then we could assemble. hahah

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Yeah i was at 345rwhp for about 15k miles, then for the past 6k miles been at 424rwhp, and no problems. I have 28k on the car, 21k of which are FI
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 002-M-P
Yeah i was at 345rwhp for about 15k miles, then for the past 6k miles been at 424rwhp, and no problems. I have 28k on the car, 21k of which are FI
What size injectors are you running?

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by barthelb
Maybe I should create the 20,000+Mile FI Club, then we could assemble. hahah
haha sounds good to me

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What size injectors are you running?
I'm running the RC440's that come with the Greddy kit.
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