I know this guy and raced him..he dynoed 460whp on Teds then a month later whem he dynoed on the other dyno he dynoed 400whp..But he was lower because his tune somehow was all of his car was pinging and his boost was down 2lbs...thats why it dynoed lower...Also about the fuel pump on marins car Ted talks to peter at aps ever other day and everone know about aps's car with 790whp..well he tell Ted what they did and Ted does it...there is a lot of little things that can be done that a lot of people don't know about...how else do you explain how with 650 injectors and 1 fuel pump at 22+lbs of boost that marins car is rich as hell shooting 5ft fireballs out...to much fuel...anyways...His power ison he raced a mid to high 9sec car and was dead even...with his a/f ratio at 9...can you imagine if he leaned it out...

 

aps doesnt release all the info, that i believe.

that must be one hell of a car.

how in the world do you get any traction, i have the same tires, in 275/35-19, with my slow aps single, i get almost no traction at peak boost.

 

a mod'd cobra is notorious for massive inconsistency in their runs... dont blame the dyno! those are cars suffer from massive heat soak. I used to do 03 cobra dyno days and i used to have to let them cool down forever, and even then they were horribly inconsistent... that type of setup just suffers from very inconsistent temps. A non-braking dynojet 248 is a very simple device... and i mean VERY simple... there is no room for inconsistency beyond the vehicle. The most simple of cars, Hondas, will dyno withing a couple tenths of a HP from pull to pull on a 248.

 

I think APS might be using the flowing to hit their high numbers.

 

Well if you say they (cobras) are inconsistent, fine.. But heat soak was not that issue, as the FIRST run when the car was cool, was lower. But 50 rwhp more.. When the car was cool on both runs.. Intresting I suppose.

And yes, racing a 9.8 sec car from a roll ( which had more mods since that run ), and being even with it, also is just a little more that shows his power levles.

And yeah, he IS still rich at 22psi, still 10.5:1 is some areas. Was 9.0:1 before tuning, and when he raced those cars.

 

Ohh and yeah I herd about that car....

Apparently the customer took it from Teds to robs, and rob messed with the tune. It was running lower boost, and pinging on the dyno ( robs ) when it wasnt doing to on Teds.. I do think the car went back to Teds and he fixed it.

This, is just what I was told.

 

Why is Ted running it so rich? Safety?

 

I was going to ask the same thing. a/f in the 10's is one thing, but 9's? the car must run like chit. Mine doesn't feel great when I go WOT running that rich, which is why it's parked until Mark comes out to install the HKS V-PRO.

 

Gman, would it not be adviseable to just lower your fuel pressure a tad, at least for the time being? Like one or two psi? The reason I ask is because I'm running sub in the 10's at WOT and was thinking about doing so.

 

Rob did nothing to the car. He drove it then dyno'ed it. The car was Detinating from the first drive on the street. It wouldnt break em loose in 2nd gear. Also why did the owner bring the car to Rob in the first place? Because he didnt trust Ted or the # Ted said he was putting down. The Dyno chart also had a different date on it, a date the owners car wasnt even there. This isnt the first car that has pulled lower #'s on Rob's Dyno, theres been a few. Rob installed cams and headers on a G then tuned the car not to long ago. The owner wasnt happy with his # so he went to Ted. His dyno was 20hp higher. That Dyno is known to give high #'s. The best thing about what Rob does is tell you from the start. Go drive the car and tell me what you think. He then shows you the #. Thats why I like him, no BS! I really wish I had some of that mojo that Ted has. Ive never seen a guy get called out sooo many times on chit and people just keep spending money with him.
Back on topic congrats on your #'s Im sure its a beast!!! Even if thats not the REAL # Im sure its pretty close and I bet that thing is a hand full to drive!!!

 

I could do that but that is just putting a band aide on the problem. The car needs to be retuned.

I tried lowering the fuel pressure when I was running rich on my 2nd motor. I was running 9.9 a/f or maybe lower (the PLX only goes down to 9.9). I lowered the fuel pressure 2psi and it went into the 10's. 2 days after running with lower fuel pressure the car started going into the 12.'s. After that I raised the fuel pressure back up. I am not going to chance anything this time around. I can wait two more weeks for the V-pro and put all my problems to rest.

 

Hm, Ted said the customer said Rob did change the tune? Why did he bring it BACK to Ted again if he didnt trust him then?

Why running rich? Lol not by choice. It was rich the first time because after the next wave of mods it onlly had a street tune. Then, while tuning it on the dyno, all of the surrounding companys came over holding their ears, telling Ted to shut the car down because they couldnt hear a thing. It will be leaned out some more when the time comes.

 

People keep spending money with him for a reason lol... He does great work, regardless of what some may think. He also sells and installs more APS kits then you could even imagine. At HIN he had 10 cars there, all with very satisfied customers, all saying the cars run beautifully, all saying it drives like stock in the low end, with GOBS of power when the gas is put down ant any time. Not to mention everytime I walk in his shop, nearly every car in there is TT Not to mention, he probably has the closest ties with APS out of anyone in the US for the 350Z market.

 

Myth Busters show proved this to be an urban myth.

 

Hmm maybe Bri could shed some light on this . As for people being happy I cant even tell you the # of PM's Ive got about him and his shop. There are a few that are reading this right now that know what Im talking about. But they end up posting other things. Thats my point.

 

I met Bri yesturday..... He seemed to be very happy with his car, and with Ted. Perhaps he could "shed some light" ? Bri is even thinking of doing a build my like Marins soon, with Ted..

 

What was the myth?? lol

 

lol, Like I said Im not going to call anyone out.

 

Seems you are implying Bri is not happy... I'm having a lot of trouble believing this, and wondering if he wasnt happy, why in the world would he take it to Ted for a crazy engine build up.

 

I never said anything about Bri. I said maybe Bri could shed some light on why his buddy went back to Ted. Ive talked with Bri and Rob on the phone about it. So if things changed after its news to me. But this was only a couple weeks ago.
Im not going to turn this thread into a BS thread about what I think about Ted and his shop. Members here already know what he did to me and how I feel about him. All you have to do is do a search under my name about Ted, Scotts. So Im done with the bickering. Enjoy your car, I know I would!!!