Stillen Stage 4 no power gain
yeah for 300whp
I'm not making 300whp. That'd be more like a 65whp gain
I'm just talking ballpark, not like exactly 50whp on the dot. And we don't know how Doug's dyno and climate differs from where I am
I'm not making 300whp. That'd be more like a 65whp gain
I'm just talking ballpark, not like exactly 50whp on the dot. And we don't know how Doug's dyno and climate differs from where I am
Tells me how much you really know about the VQ. It has been out since 1994 in a 1995 Maxima VQ. I have owned every variation of the VQ to date. I also have prototyped many mods and tested many mods on the different VQs. They basically all have the same design of internals and all react the same way to mods in their own way. I have a bit more experience than most people here including yourself with this engine.
Originally Posted by sentry65
you're right, I haven't been very scientific about it. I honestly never gave a crap about getting a base dyno when my car was stock when those places have over 10 bone stock Z's making what they are +/- 5whp SAE. I figured my Z wouldn't be that dramatically different stock. I think people generally consider it a 50whp gain regardless though - especially on a dyno day where you have other bone stock cars dynoing the same day within 30 min of your dyno
Um it said in plain english in the article - and LOOK AT THE DYNO
http://www.sportzmagazine.com/images...tech_Chart.gif
they said it was detonating and jerking back and forth on the dyno. Enough said
right, I don't have a base dyno, therefore I must have gained 0whp and = the suckage
you just sealed your fate right there - get ready for many people to disagree with you who have done it also or even higher - Doug @ Crawford I'm sure can disagree with you...but I don't know if we're all up to the challenge of disputing your 10 years of VQ knowledge - as if all the VQ's are the VQ35 which didn't come out until like 5-6 years ago
Um it said in plain english in the article - and LOOK AT THE DYNO
http://www.sportzmagazine.com/images...tech_Chart.gif
they said it was detonating and jerking back and forth on the dyno. Enough said
right, I don't have a base dyno, therefore I must have gained 0whp and = the suckage
you just sealed your fate right there - get ready for many people to disagree with you who have done it also or even higher - Doug @ Crawford I'm sure can disagree with you...but I don't know if we're all up to the challenge of disputing your 10 years of VQ knowledge - as if all the VQ's are the VQ35 which didn't come out until like 5-6 years ago
What is this spreadsheet about? It is definitely not a comparison between ATI/Stillen/Vortech...
Danny
Danny
Originally Posted by G35_TX
http://www.sah2o.com/russ/Russ%201.xls
Out of the box kits.
ATI vs Stillen vs Vortech. All same dyno, same day, same test procedure and conditions. Stillen made the most MEAN power which is the most important thing when talking about who will win a race.
Out of the box kits.
ATI vs Stillen vs Vortech. All same dyno, same day, same test procedure and conditions. Stillen made the most MEAN power which is the most important thing when talking about who will win a race.
I added a couple vortech "stages" to that chart
stage 1 is stock kit, stock car
stage 2 is bigger fuel pump and 440 injectors with 3.12 pulley, etc
stage 3 adds return fuel system and 550 injectors with 2.87 pulley, etc
I even added in a turbonetics 402whp dyno
it's at least ballpark - they weren't all on the same dyno on the same day but it's at least an approximation. Every car is going to be different anyway and running different exhausts or cams or whatever
does anyone have any stage 1 or 2 stillen dynos? I'm suspecting stillen stage 1 would be 195hp/250tq mean and stage 2 would probably be around 215hp/270tq since all the stillen graphs I've seen basically look the same just raised up higher or lower
stage 1 is stock kit, stock car
stage 2 is bigger fuel pump and 440 injectors with 3.12 pulley, etc
stage 3 adds return fuel system and 550 injectors with 2.87 pulley, etc
I even added in a turbonetics 402whp dyno
it's at least ballpark - they weren't all on the same dyno on the same day but it's at least an approximation. Every car is going to be different anyway and running different exhausts or cams or whatever
does anyone have any stage 1 or 2 stillen dynos? I'm suspecting stillen stage 1 would be 195hp/250tq mean and stage 2 would probably be around 215hp/270tq since all the stillen graphs I've seen basically look the same just raised up higher or lower
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G35-TX is right , no way the NA 350z can make that kind of power (Maximum 30 whp), and as i said before Stillen stage 1 only is faster than any NA bolts on. i cannot understand the ego of some guys overhere (who really need to do some serious growing up) claiming more than 450whp with 9lbs of boost on their turbo kit while the manufacturer himself claims less than 400whp.So far all the people who contradicted me and asked for proof, proof , did not give any themselves, all they know when cornered is to reply with some lame insult ... ive got 14 years old kids that are more polite.
And by the way, my Stillen stage 4 is more responsive to my friends Vortech especially at low rpm..we did not try them yet but my car feels faster.... Stillen curve has more area under it over the entire rpm range .
And by the way, my Stillen stage 4 is more responsive to my friends Vortech especially at low rpm..we did not try them yet but my car feels faster.... Stillen curve has more area under it over the entire rpm range .
Last edited by Dr.G; Apr 27, 2006 at 10:39 PM.
Originally Posted by Dr.G
G35-TX is right , no way the NA 350z can make that kind of power (Maximum 30 whp), and as i said before Stillen stage 1 only is faster than any NA bolts on. i cannot understand the ego of some guys overhere (who really need to do some serious growing up) claiming more than 450whp with 9lbs of boost on their turbo kit while the manufacturer himself claims less than 400whp.So far all the people who contradicted me and asked for proof, proof , did not give any themselves, all they know when cornered is to reply with some lame insult ... ive got 14 years old kids that are more polite.
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Show me a dyno again.. Pretty funny claim when most stillen stage 3's are below 290whp!LOL calling the kettle black...
* We didnt make any CLAIMS to backup. - You did
I literally just laughed at your post because it shows your a hipocrit and a liar. That doesnt happen very often.
Originally Posted by Dr.G
G35-TX is right , no way the NA 350z can make that kind of power (Maximum 30 whp)
Pass the crack pipe your outta your fuking mind...
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Wow you get dumber as the days go on. I made 23whp with bolt-ons and a mail in flash, no headers, stock cams, stock TB OVER my baseline. Your saying an NA Z cant make 30whp more? Pass the crack pipe your outta your fuking mind...
Pass the crack pipe your outta your fuking mind...
Last edited by Dr.G; Apr 28, 2006 at 07:29 AM.
Originally Posted by Dr.G
again blah blah blah ......ok lets say 40whp to make you happy ,and my neighbour here has a golf 1.8 l claims that he makes on the dyno 400whp
Originally Posted by Dr.G
again blah blah blah ......ok lets say 40whp to make you happy ,and my neighbour here has a golf 1.8 l claims that he makes on the dyno 400whp
Originally Posted by Dr.G
yes that is why i smoked his *** by 6 cars with an evo 6 stock
right, that's why we believe you, because you provide proof of everything you say.
you notice you're the only one we do this **** to? because you're useless and make baseless claims.
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Originally Posted by chimmike
right, that's why we believe you, because you provide proof of everything you say.
you notice you're the only one we do this **** to? because you're useless and make baseless claims.
you notice you're the only one we do this **** to? because you're useless and make baseless claims.
Originally Posted by Dr.G
and i did not see any proof from you either except that you really have lame jokes
I have a timeslip I can a) take a pic of, or b) scan, to prove my 12.5 1/4 mile time. You have nothing to prove anything you've said.