They had the same story with an APS TT car as well.
In all honesty, when FI'ing a stock Z the possibility of a blown motor has to be accepted....
Or the motor has to be built.
Personnaly, having realized the true cost of FI, I don't know if it is important enough to me to be worth spending that much.
That is why my car is in the Classifieds and I am looking into other paths to speed...

 

huh? what are you talking about?

 

Basically, when installing an FI kit you have a mutual understanding with the tuner that the engine may blow and he is not responsible...

As much as I want to go fast with FI, I am at the point at which it does not seem to me like such a worthy expendure, and you are right, a TT with a mildly built motor will run you about 15G. Then you buy the exhaust, gauges, etc, etc. It will be about 20G when everything is said and done. I do have the money for it, but I no longer feel that this is the best thing I can spend it one...

So I put my car in the Classifieds, if anyone takes it, I'll let it go. Also I am not spending another penny on it until I figure out my other options...

 

that "huh what are you talking about" was not to you OLEG sorry for the confusion!

 

There is a functional purpose to the "quote" button...

 

I've heard of (and see) multiple STOCK 350Zs with blown motors. You better sell your car now because it "might" blow up and we all know that a blown motor is the absolute, total end of the world. It's probably the worst thing that could happen to anybody, anywhere, anytime.

 

It is not the worst thing, but when all is fixed, said and done, you look back and realize that you spent extra $$ to pull the blown block, transfer all the accessories onto a built one and put that one it, not to mention that you also paid for a new core. Then you wonder, why didn't you do it right to begin with and bought yourself a nice BBK for the money saved...
Foresight, my friend, plain and simple...

 

Dave,
Get you fact straight before posting on a public forum..We never had a Vortech SC pop at our shop..We had one APS TT snap a weak rod.This was one occasion out of the dozens of F/I we installed on 350Z's. And there was no tuning done by us on the car, it simply let go at 380TQ.
We did have a Turbonetics kit come in with a blown motor, that was installed by your boys over at Stage 2 performance We told the kid 2 weeks before he popped it, that it was not tuned properly and was going to go BOOM..
Some Z's fall victim to state of tune, some simply cant handle the boost.
This whole thread seems a bit stupid actually..

 

Can an APS TT be de-tuned to about 340-350tq for the time prior to the motor build?
Of if it's weak, it'll snap regardless?

 

Of course it can...Use a stock exhaust and keep the boost at about 6-7 psi..What people dont realize is the addition of a free flowing exhaust, the car makes more boost and more power..Which equals more heat and more stress..

 

But doesn't a more restrictive exhaust actually increase torque?

 

Not really increase TQ per say, but you loose a bit low end TQ when going with a less restrictive exhaust. You make up overall TQ numbers with proper tuning.. A free flowing exhaust will increase boost response and without proper tuning and timing correction can lead problems..

 

OK, there is still some hope then for me...
Purely out of curiousity, in all these APS TT installs that you've done, what was the "mildest" (for the lack of a better word)?
Or did everyone go w/the exhaust, test pipes, etc?

 

Ah, whom am I kidding?
I'll wuss out again as soon as another one blows his motor...

 

I've read of a few people that DIDN'T go for the APS exhaust. Barthleb (sp?) on this forum was one of the first APS TT installs and I believe he was, or is, still running the nismo exhaust.

 

Stock exhaust, usually 360-370 whp...I just made 409 on a Greddy with stock exhaust and cats..
Stop being such a puss man, just dive in!!!

 

I thought the red one jay showed me was sc? If i got it wrong im sorry,, thats what I recalled though. I didnt know of any single T kit that stage 2 did, but they dont know **** about our cars so i expect something like that from them.

 

Come Oleg, do F/I. You and I sound just alike on this subject. But I do believe, Scotts Performance does give a 12 mo/12,000 mi. warranty on their work. That's one reason I will probably do it, but then again that's why I'm also thinking or wussing out on it. Of course I keep buying all the parts for it, meanwhile having the bottom built is still a must to me for my personal reason. ahhhhh - safety I hope of it not having the opportunity to even try to blow up.... and that is the 2nd reason I'm thinking about doing it. :-)
So of course the question is: To wuss or not to wuss. ... ?????

 

Scott's performance's warranty applies to the stock block????
I'll have to call them to investigate.

But even if that's the case, in order for me (living in NY) to take advanage of that offer would be to ship my car back and forth out of my pocket. Also, if my motor does blow up, it's shipping the car again.

In here there is no competition between shops, as opposed to Cali. In here the only thing needed for a shop to succeed is to be good, and as far as I am concerned there only one shop in a 100 mile radius from where I am at (had experience with the "other" shop, but no names/deteails).

 

I don't spend 5 hours travelling back and forth to NJ for nothing