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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Well I drove 6 HR to get a 11.5psi tune on my little PE turbos to see if we could beat last weeks record on Sharif's "Heart Breaker" dyno. This is a no correction dyno. Heres a little history on my kit. I bought it used for $4000 they were on a built G35 for 9000 miles, I now have 5000 miles on 9.5 psi and about 500 miles on 11.5 psi, and they are going strong. It dyno-ed 467 @11.5 psi no correction. She's a beast now. So I arrived home let her cool for a while and head out to the track, just got back, the temp there was 105 degrees. These are no launch runs (just roll out like at a light) and getting off the throttle in 1st and second (tires were just breaking loose). My best was 12.5 119 60ft 2.8 roll out no launch, car weight 3421lbs. She runs lot smoother than before. Thanks so much Sharif you out did yourself this time, awesome tune brother. Sharif can you post the AF and torque max number dyno sheets for the boys. Taylor thanks for the wheels this would have not happened without them.

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Here is the AF dyno chart. Just a point of clarification. Our dyno still uses standard atmospheric correction, which adjusts for temp, pressure, humidity, and air inlet temp. By "uncorrected", Eagle is refering to the "Additional" correction that is arbitrarily added to the dyno numbers, in order to simulate a Dyno Jet number. This is usually in the neighborhood of 7-13%. We choose not to add any additional correction, becuase it creates confusion and debates on the boards. All I know, is that our dyno reads lower than a dynojet...by how much....that is anyone's guess.

Nice times Eagle...thanks for taking it to the track.

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Congrats! no problem im glad i was able to help. did you ise those 17" at the track lol i bet you had no traction
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Yes I did... LOL It was funny, I felt I had some Geo metro wheels on. I gave it gas and the tach would move but not the car. Very hot and humid!
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Well I drove 6 HR to get a 11.5psi tune on my little PE turbos to see if we could beat last weeks record on Sharif's "Heart Breaker" dyno. This is a no correction dyno. Heres a little history on my kit. I bought it used for $4000 they were on a built G35 for 9000 miles, I now have 5000 miles on 9.5 psi and about 500 miles on 11.5 psi, and they are going strong. It dyno-ed 467 @11.5 psi no correction. She's a beast now. So I arrived home let her cool for a while and head out to the track, just got back, the temp there was 105 degrees. These are no launch runs (just roll out like at a light) and getting off the throttle in 1st and second (tires were just breaking loose). My best was 12.5 119 60ft 2.8 roll out no launch, car weight 3421lbs. She runs lot smoother than before. Thanks so much Sharif you out did yourself this time, awesome tune brother. Sharif can you post the AF and torque max number dyno sheets for the boys. Taylor thanks for the wheels this would have not happened without them.

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Wow very nice, with you guys now popping up with big numbers on stock blocks... Almost makes me want to make the trip back to Sharif to turn the boost back up and get into the 400 WHP club again
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Yes I did... LOL It was funny, I felt I had some Geo metro wheels on. I gave it gas and the tach would move but not the car. Very hot and humid!

hahahah those are awesome times with those wheels and tires
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What's this uncorrected business.... an uncorrected number is pretty much useless.

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Nice run man...You really should be trapping much much higher for having 476 Dyno Dynamics HP..The correction would put you at about 510 whp on a dyno jet which would net you 122-124 traps. I personally would like to see you run a better tire and get a good 60ft, should put you at 11.3's with that HP.
For example, our stock motor 350Z was running 11.45's @119-120 with 1.7's and this car was only making 445 whp on our dyno WITH the correction...Something seems a bit off to me, for that level of HP on a DD uncorrected number...But none the less great numbers..


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Well that did not take long!!! Great numbers man... It was nice to have the record for at least a week... I don't think I will be trying to break that record anytime soon. Maybe once I get water/meth injection kit, but that is not for a few more months.

Great numbers Sharif!!! Kinda makes you wonder when you draw the line... It was not that long ago that people said "400hp(dynojet) at the wheels... you have to have a built motor for that!" We are into the 500hp territory now and doing it realitivly safely at that.

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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Nice run man...You really should be trapping much much higher for having 476 Dyno Dynamics HP..The correction would put you at about 510 whp on a dyno jet which would net you 122-124 traps. I personally would like to see you run a better tire and get a good 60ft, should put you at 11.3's with that HP.
For example, our stock motor 350Z was running 11.45's @119-120 with 1.7's and this car was only making 445 whp on our dyno WITH the correction...Something seems a bit off to me, for that level of HP on a DD uncorrected number...But none the less great numbers..


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I have some loaner wheels right now, stock 17" with almost bald tires. When I get my new volk I"ll try again, but at night. I wish I would've taken some video, and you would see what i mean. I had no reason to be out there today with those tires.
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Nice run man...You really should be trapping much much higher for having 476 Dyno Dynamics HP..The correction would put you at about 510 whp on a dyno jet which would net you 122-124 traps. I personally would like to see you run a better tire and get a good 60ft, should put you at 11.3's with that HP.
For example, our stock motor 350Z was running 11.45's @119-120 with 1.7's and this car was only making 445 whp on our dyno WITH the correction...Something seems a bit off to me, for that level of HP on a DD uncorrected number...But none the less great numbers..
LOL Julian giving drag racing tips...anyways, congrats man! Sharif does amazing work, that trap will SURELY go up given some race rubber, and is good for the conditions/weight of your Z.
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LOL Julian giving drag racing tips...anyways, congrats man! Sharif does amazing work, that trap will SURELY go up given some race rubber, and is good for the conditions/weight of your Z.
Right, cause When I started driving you were what?? in 4th grade??
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Damn Good job there fellas
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
What's this uncorrected business.... an uncorrected number is pretty much useless.

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Jet, you must have missed my clarification post...second post on this thread. We use standard atmospheric correction...but no "additional" correction.

I am sure with a good clean pass..the traps will be higher....we was running stock wheels and tires, for pete's sake!
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
...Something seems a bit off to me, for that level of HP on a DD uncorrected number...But none the less great numbers.
Julian, when will you ever give up?? We've been at the tuning game a LOT longer than most shops.....give us some credit!

Also, your assumption at a DJ reads 13% higher than a DD just just speculation, even if you do a back to back test. No two dynos are alike, and since we can't make accurate predictions of exactly what our numbers would be on a dynojet....we dont even bother trying to inflate with artificial correction. I hope your shop will eventually decide to do the same thing.

One last thing...we made 467whp...not 476whp.

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Yeah I know stock tires?
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Right, cause When I started driving you were what?? in 4th grade??
Julian-the following is the damn truth about you, and why I think you should really give it up as you will only look worse to customers/potential customers from here on out....

* First off I dont care when you started driving, dont give me BS/talk down to me about "you were driving when I was in the 4th grade" you palsy shift and run high 11's @ 127mph-obviously you havent picked up much in all your years of experience.

* Based off what I just said above, who are you to come in to this thread and throw this crap out---> "well you should trap higher, run faster, our shop car (that you dont fawkin drive) has run 11.5 @ 119, etc etc" when you suck at driving (pot meet kettle) and only post things like that with no reason other than to downplay another shops/members numbers on both the dyno/track....

* Sharif has been tuning way before you/MRC even received their dyno this past February. You act like your the hottest $hit since sliced bread in regards to tuning Z's and UTEC and thats funny as months ago you/MRC had TurboXS/AAM tune your car because you werent competent enough to/had no idea on how to tune UTEC-your awesome experience is outstanding You dont know the circumstances of the OP's track experience so for you to throw down a smart a$$ comment is dumb, and makes you look bad as a person and a business owner.

* You need to stop going from post to post with 2 things. First, you disrespect every single vendor in the FI forum by posting your shops ugly a$$ logo in HTML format tocheat the 4 line signature rule, I think we would all appreciate if we could read/scroll through a post without seeing that garbage. Second, ever since I called Bull$hit on your dyno numbers which are inflated to what you think simulates dynojet numbers you have continued the newb/retarded mentality of automatically taking Dyno Dynamics numbers, and posting your thoughts on what you think the car in question would do on a Dynojet. If you/anybody wants Dynojet numbers, go to a fawking dynojet.

* Your continual search to question a shop (and Sharif of all people) is sad, as it was you/MRC who were questioned just weeks ago in a drag racing thread regarding your INFLATED numbers and how you should stop making yourself look bad by misinforming your customers/people on the forums of extra corrections applied to their actual dyno's. You and VRT are the official 350Z community dyno queens. Surprisngly both shops also dont back up the claimed WHP with 1/4 TRAP SPEEDS as this is the only real no BS way to measure a cars power. Why dont you/MRC stop applying Dynojet corrections to Dyno Dynamic actual figures, this way the Z community can have some sort of a baseline/honesty between shops and numbers so we can all see how well MRC actually tunes in comparison to other shops?...what are you scared of?

* BTW my offer still stands for me to pay for your car to be dyno'd on an actualy Dynojet and put down anything close to the numbers your claiming. Im guessing you'll just resort to personal attacks (again) and not take me/the Z community up on proving your numbers since you cant get it done at the track....
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all this is making me want to buy a UTEC just so sharif can tune my car, damnit, after ive been trying to talk myself into selling it.
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
I have some loaner wheels right now, stock 17" with almost bald tires. When I get my new volk I"ll try again, but at night. I wish I would've taken some video, and you would see what i mean. I had no reason to be out there today with those tires.
haha the rears are the worst ones !!! suprised you even made it down the track!!
you almost would have done better with the fronts in the rear, just becuase they were almost new.

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+1 this could get ugly

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