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Old 09-05-2006, 08:36 AM
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People are stupid for comparing an NA engine to a FI engine stock vs stock-no $hit the 2JZ will handle more boost/power....as stated many times though, build them both and its a different ballgame.
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by USED
When Nissan replaced the RB engine in their GT500 class cars with the VQ (turbo'd, I believe it was a VQ32?), they owned the track.
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Stroked VQ30DETT
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Damn man, I didnt say you dont know how to drive, I think you do ok given you relevation/track conditions. All I said was if he was running faster than you with a lower trap speed on the same track he is outlaunching and/or outshifting you. Even if that was the case that doesnt mean you suck I never intended to insult you, why do people get so damn defensive around here?
I have been Z less for 5 weeks.......you know how that makes you feel, I'm ready to bite everyone's head off
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
I have been Z less for 5 weeks.......you know how that makes you feel, I'm ready to bite everyone's head off
Ha-I def hear you on that one, my posts have continually become meaner as the time went on without being able to drive my car Good luck with everything, I look forward to seeing how your new set-up does, maybe Ill be a challenge for you
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:08 AM
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Now yes the Supra is fast in a straight line, yet you really need to get your Z on a road coarse - then you will see it walk away for the Supra. The Z is one amazingly balanced machine, and the only way to see that is to get here on a road coarse.
And Mrtomcat - as you know our cars are twins - and on a road coarse my cars passes everyone - even Supras and brand new Z06's.
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Originally Posted by doug
Stroked VQ30DETT

actually, it was single turbo, iirc.
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:40 AM
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I didnt take the time to read the entire thread, so this may be redundant..but....

vq35 when tt'd : tons of torque down low, great power band

I don't know much about supras, but they make much less torque and the power comes on late in the power band...

I think the Supras are impressive, but I would take a 350z tt anyday

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Originally Posted by chimmike
actually, it was single turbo, iirc.
It was TT according to JGTC's website.
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Originally Posted by chimmike
actually, it was single turbo, iirc.
VQ30DETT that was in the Cima and the Cedric stock 280 hp/285 tq .. blacktop manifold ... stroked to 3.2L
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My main point was that it's sooo much cheaper to get a supra to do the same as a Z but someone actually answered the obvious question for me: A brand new Supra was about 50k being designed to be a turbo car. In a few years people will sell their build Z's for much less and whatever will be the hot new car at the time will cost more to get there....
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
I didnt take the time to read the entire thread, so this may be redundant..but....

vq35 when tt'd : tons of torque down low, great power band

I don't know much about supras, but they make much less torque and the power comes on late in the power band...

-TODD
that might be part of the reason they kick so much *** in the 1/4.
Again, I have much better times up to the 1/8 mile but just after that the supras catch on and usually win. That has been the most frustration experience for me on that.
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
My main point was that it's sooo much cheaper to get a supra to do the same as a Z but someone actually answered the obvious question for me: A brand new Supra was about 50k being designed to be a turbo car. In a few years people will sell their build Z's for much less and whatever will be the hot new car at the time will cost more to get there....
I don't think it can be stated any simpler than that.
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
that might be part of the reason they kick so much *** in the 1/4.
Again, I have much better times up to the 1/8 mile but just after that the supras catch on and usually win. That has been the most frustration experience for me on that.
Yeah, but how much more peak power were they putting down than you?

Build + Cams = Problem Solved

You will be beating them at the 1/8 and the 1/4 (unless they are massively overpowering you still)
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
Now yes the Supra is fast in a straight line, yet you really need to get your Z on a road coarse - then you will see it walk away for the Supra. The Z is one amazingly balanced machine, and the only way to see that is to get here on a road coarse.
And Mrtomcat - as you know our cars are twins - and on a road coarse my cars passes everyone - even Supras and brand new Z06's.
that is good to know, I always thought the Supra was also designed to be more of a raod car than straight line
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, but how much more peak power were they putting down than you?

Build + Cams = Problem Solved

You will be beating them at the 1/8 and the 1/4 (unless they are massively overpowering you still)
yes, once I get my baby back it'll kick their booties...but I will have spent quite a bit to get there.

Side note: just talked to Sam he says, he should be able to start tuning tomorrow....there is a light
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Old 09-05-2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
that is good to know, I always thought the Supra was also designed to be more of a raod car than straight line
the Hard top is designed to be more of a road car than a straight line car... i think its called the JZA80

don't buy into what others who have no knowledge of them tell you
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Damn man, I didnt say you dont know how to drive, I think you do ok given you relevation/track conditions. All I said was if he was running faster than you with a lower trap speed on the same track he is outlaunching and/or outshifting you. Even if that was the case that doesnt mean you suck I never intended to insult you, why do people get so damn defensive around here?

dude WTF, are you calling me fat?? jesus...
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Old 09-05-2006, 02:27 PM
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LOL Jeremy, you fuking jelly like slob of a driver, you suck at life.
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Old 09-05-2006, 02:36 PM
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i just did tip over the 175 mark just the other day....
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I know your not a fat **** man....
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