Why are Supras so much better?
People are stupid for comparing an NA engine to a FI engine stock vs stock-no $hit the 2JZ will handle more boost/power....as stated many times though, build them both and its a different ballgame.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Damn man, I didnt say you dont know how to drive, I think you do ok given you relevation/track conditions. All I said was if he was running faster than you with a lower trap speed on the same track he is outlaunching and/or outshifting you. Even if that was the case that doesnt mean you suck
I never intended to insult you, why do people get so damn defensive around here?
I never intended to insult you, why do people get so damn defensive around here?
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I have been Z less for 5 weeks.......you know how that makes you feel, I'm ready to bite everyone's head off
Good luck with everything, I look forward to seeing how your new set-up does, maybe Ill be a challenge for you
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Now yes the Supra is fast in a straight line, yet you really need to get your Z on a road coarse - then you will see it walk away for the Supra. The Z is one amazingly balanced machine, and the only way to see that is to get here on a road coarse.
And Mrtomcat - as you know our cars are twins - and on a road coarse my cars passes everyone - even Supras and brand new Z06's.
And Mrtomcat - as you know our cars are twins - and on a road coarse my cars passes everyone - even Supras and brand new Z06's.
I didnt take the time to read the entire thread, so this may be redundant..but....
vq35 when tt'd : tons of torque down low, great power band
I don't know much about supras, but they make much less torque and the power comes on late in the power band...
I think the Supras are impressive, but I would take a 350z tt anyday
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vq35 when tt'd : tons of torque down low, great power band
I don't know much about supras, but they make much less torque and the power comes on late in the power band...
I think the Supras are impressive, but I would take a 350z tt anyday
-TODD
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My main point was that it's sooo much cheaper to get a supra to do the same as a Z but someone actually answered the obvious question for me: A brand new Supra was about 50k being designed to be a turbo car. In a few years people will sell their build Z's for much less and whatever will be the hot new car at the time will cost more to get there....
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
I didnt take the time to read the entire thread, so this may be redundant..but....
vq35 when tt'd : tons of torque down low, great power band
I don't know much about supras, but they make much less torque and the power comes on late in the power band...
-TODD
vq35 when tt'd : tons of torque down low, great power band
I don't know much about supras, but they make much less torque and the power comes on late in the power band...
-TODD
Again, I have much better times up to the 1/8 mile but just after that the supras catch on and usually win. That has been the most frustration experience for me on that.
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My main point was that it's sooo much cheaper to get a supra to do the same as a Z but someone actually answered the obvious question for me: A brand new Supra was about 50k being designed to be a turbo car. In a few years people will sell their build Z's for much less and whatever will be the hot new car at the time will cost more to get there....
Originally Posted by mrtomcat
that might be part of the reason they kick so much *** in the 1/4.
Again, I have much better times up to the 1/8 mile but just after that the supras catch on and usually win. That has been the most frustration experience for me on that.
Again, I have much better times up to the 1/8 mile but just after that the supras catch on and usually win. That has been the most frustration experience for me on that.
Build + Cams = Problem Solved
You will be beating them at the 1/8 and the 1/4 (unless they are massively overpowering you still)
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
Now yes the Supra is fast in a straight line, yet you really need to get your Z on a road coarse - then you will see it walk away for the Supra. The Z is one amazingly balanced machine, and the only way to see that is to get here on a road coarse.
And Mrtomcat - as you know our cars are twins - and on a road coarse my cars passes everyone - even Supras and brand new Z06's.
And Mrtomcat - as you know our cars are twins - and on a road coarse my cars passes everyone - even Supras and brand new Z06's.
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, but how much more peak power were they putting down than you?
Build + Cams = Problem Solved
You will be beating them at the 1/8 and the 1/4 (unless they are massively overpowering you still)
Build + Cams = Problem Solved
You will be beating them at the 1/8 and the 1/4 (unless they are massively overpowering you still)
Side note: just talked to Sam he says, he should be able to start tuning tomorrow....there is a light
Originally Posted by mrtomcat
that is good to know, I always thought the Supra was also designed to be more of a raod car than straight line
don't buy into what others who have no knowledge of them tell you
Originally Posted by Alberto
Damn man, I didnt say you dont know how to drive, I think you do ok given you relevation/track conditions. All I said was if he was running faster than you with a lower trap speed on the same track he is outlaunching and/or outshifting you. Even if that was the case that doesnt mean you suck I never intended to insult you, why do people get so damn defensive around here?
I never intended to insult you, why do people get so damn defensive around here?dude WTF, are you calling me fat?? jesus...
