APS single TUrbo? yes or no
10-17-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
well everyone loves APS Turbo's because of the extra 2 mins you have to leave your car running to cool down your turbo's when you run them hard
10-17-2006, 11:31 AM
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Oh. well for me that's a moot point. my alarm has a intergrated turbo timer. press a button and them arm the alarm and you're off. car shuts off in 2 minutes. no more waiting around.
10-17-2006, 11:37 AM
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From a former owner of one HELL NO! APS makes decent stuff but until they get competent customer service in the states I suggest no one buying anything from them. TN has its issues but the for make up for this in CS
10-17-2006, 11:38 AM
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I'm happy with my Single Turbo setup. At the time, a TT kit was totally out of the question which had me looking at supercharger setups. When the ST kits hit the market they were a perfect medium. Now I realize that I dont' really NEED more power in my car as I'm not a hardcore racer type. As long as my motor holds up, I'm totally happy with around 400 to the wheels.
10-17-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
water cooled turbo's vs oil cooled turbo's.. it was one of the selling points that won over some owners instead of the Greddy Kit
No cooldown required and higher water temps are just a biproduct of the necessity of water cooling on these dual ball bearing turbos.
10-17-2006, 11:45 AM
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I dont understand why ppl get pissed at APS for "poor customer service." Perhaps some manufacturers excel at this, but why would you expect customer service from the product maker? If I have issues with my APS setup, I would call GRD and have THEM figure out the problem and do my legwork. There is no way I would call the actual manufacturer for ANYTHING unless I bought directly from them. I never even would consider it. When I had issues with some wheels a few years ago, I contacted the vendor who helped me resolve the issue, not the company in Japan. Anyways, this is just my opinion.
10-17-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by synth19
I dont understand why ppl get pissed at APS for "poor customer service." Perhaps some manufacturers excel at this, but why would you expect customer service from the product maker? If I have issues with my APS setup, I would call GRD and have THEM figure out the problem and do my legwork. There is no way I would call the actual manufacturer for ANYTHING unless I bought directly from them. I never even would consider it. When I had issues with some wheels a few years ago, I contacted the vendor who helped me resolve the issue, not the company in Japan. Anyways, this is just my opinion.
10-17-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by synth19
I dont understand why ppl get pissed at APS for "poor customer service." Perhaps some manufacturers excel at this, but why would you expect customer service from the product maker? If I have issues with my APS setup, I would call GRD and have THEM figure out the problem and do my legwork. There is no way I would call the actual manufacturer for ANYTHING unless I bought directly from them. I never even would consider it. When I had issues with some wheels a few years ago, I contacted the vendor who helped me resolve the issue, not the company in Japan. Anyways, this is just my opinion.
The big difference between, APS, Greddy, etc and Turbonetics is that one is located here in the US. This makes it a lot easier to warranty parts directly. It's also a good reason to buy from them as your money is staying here in the good ole US of A.
And no, I'm not trying to make this an APS vs TN thing. As long as the problem is fixed in either case, for either kit, it doesn't really matter who did the leg work.
10-17-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Well, if you look at it from another standpoint of "Why shouldn't we expect this from a product manufacturer" it might make a little sense. Overseas companies have us trained pretty well, eh?
The big difference between, APS, Greddy, etc and Turbonetics is that one is located here in the US. This makes it a lot easier to warranty parts directly. It's also a good reason to buy from them as your money is staying here in the good ole US of A.
And no, I'm not trying to make this an APS vs TN thing. As long as the problem is fixed in either case, for either kit, it doesn't really matter who did the leg work.
The big difference between, APS, Greddy, etc and Turbonetics is that one is located here in the US. This makes it a lot easier to warranty parts directly. It's also a good reason to buy from them as your money is staying here in the good ole US of A.
And no, I'm not trying to make this an APS vs TN thing. As long as the problem is fixed in either case, for either kit, it doesn't really matter who did the leg work.
10-17-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
just save another little bit of money and get a twin turbo kit. from all the reviews i have read, it sounds like everyone either wishes they went twins, or soon will. the only positive things i have read about that single kit is "my car is fast" ... yea well, that happens when you put a turbo on it, that isnt saying a whole lot. just get the twins right off the bat, it just makes more sense. why bother with return oil pumps, road clearance issues, boost dropping off problems, a terrible EMS solution, limited HP potential. skip all that junk, go for the prize.
10-17-2006, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DMK
So which TT kit do you suggest? If the APS ST isn't so good, can their TT kit be better?
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
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10-17-2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
IMO the APS TT kit is the only way to go turbo...be it single or twins
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
10-17-2006, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
IMO the APS TT kit is the only way to go turbo...be it single or twins
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
10-17-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
IMO the APS TT kit is the only way to go turbo...be it single or twins
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
I fully agree with Phunk....go TT or don't go turbo at all
The ST kits seem to cause more problems than anything else
after you start buying other EMS, down pipes, fuel systems.. the Greddy Kit puts the APS Kit to shame...
10-17-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
That isn't the reason why these other kits are water cooled. The real reason is that on a dual ball bearing turbo, it would totally melt down/self destruct without some sort of water cooling. On traditional turbochargers and ceramic ball bearing turbos, this is not a problem.
No cooldown required and higher water temps are just a biproduct of the necessity of water cooling on these dual ball bearing turbos.
No cooldown required and higher water temps are just a biproduct of the necessity of water cooling on these dual ball bearing turbos.
10-17-2006, 01:30 PM
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Thanks for everyone's imput
i did not mean to start a heated conversation. just asking everyones honest opinion that i take into consideration
yes i am college student..that doesnt have alot of $$$$$$
so i thought APS kit, sound reasonably expensive. and good kit with add ons here and there..
i did look at the APS TT kit..kind of pricey, but still keeping it in mind
i dont want too much power, since its a daily driver, 400 will be plenty fine..
i did not mean to start a heated conversation. just asking everyones honest opinion that i take into consideration
yes i am college student..that doesnt have alot of $$$$$$
so i thought APS kit, sound reasonably expensive. and good kit with add ons here and there..
i did look at the APS TT kit..kind of pricey, but still keeping it in mind
i dont want too much power, since its a daily driver, 400 will be plenty fine..
10-17-2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by original786
i dont want too much power, since its a daily driver, 400 will be plenty fine..
10-17-2006, 01:47 PM
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heated conversation always follows any questions regarding FI options here.
Originally Posted by original786
Thanks for everyone's imput
i did not mean to start a heated conversation. just asking everyones honest opinion that i take into consideration
yes i am college student..that doesnt have alot of $$$$$$
so i thought APS kit, sound reasonably expensive. and good kit with add ons here and there..
i did look at the APS TT kit..kind of pricey, but still keeping it in mind
i dont want too much power, since its a daily driver, 400 will be plenty fine..
i did not mean to start a heated conversation. just asking everyones honest opinion that i take into consideration
yes i am college student..that doesnt have alot of $$$$$$
so i thought APS kit, sound reasonably expensive. and good kit with add ons here and there..
i did look at the APS TT kit..kind of pricey, but still keeping it in mind
i dont want too much power, since its a daily driver, 400 will be plenty fine..