BamBam's Update: The Boost is Loose at Forged Peformance!
10-25-2006 | 08:40 AM
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From: Marietta, GA
Originally Posted by hurahn
Which FCON? Pro regular or Pro complete?
10-25-2006 | 08:58 AM
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From: Germantown, MD
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
HKS FCON V-Pro V 3.24 The lastest and greatest. http://www.forgedperformance.com/sto...cat=314&page=1
10-25-2006 | 09:02 AM
#103
Originally Posted by InjectedPerf
I understand your Turbonetics loyalty. They are just too far away for us and we have had luck with Precision and Garrett turbos. Single turbo on a z is a PIA. Shoehorning a GT47 or a Turbonetics Y2K will be interesting.
10-25-2006 | 09:08 AM
#104
If you have anyone you would recommend I speak to at SEMA let me know. Would love to check out their new line.
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Thats understandable. Although if you are planning to switch turbos soon you might consider at least looking at the compressor maps for the larger GT-K units when they are released at SEMA. I can think of two that would be a GREAT match for your car? Regardless your car is beyond sick and Precision is a good company...
10-25-2006 | 09:10 AM
#105
Originally Posted by InjectedPerf
If you have anyone you would recommend I speak to at SEMA let me know. Would love to check out their new line.
10-25-2006 | 09:13 AM
#106
Originally Posted by InjectedPerf
MIAPLAYA,
I think I am pretty close to what you have in mind.
AEBS 4.3L stroker
GT42R single turbo (hoping to fit a GT47-80 eventually)
3.5" Downpipe/Midpipe with electronic cutout (note the turndown isn't installed in the picture)
I think I am pretty close to what you have in mind.
AEBS 4.3L stroker
GT42R single turbo (hoping to fit a GT47-80 eventually)
3.5" Downpipe/Midpipe with electronic cutout (note the turndown isn't installed in the picture)
10-25-2006 | 09:17 AM
#107
Originally Posted by EM-EFER
More pictures please?
10-25-2006 | 09:18 AM
#108
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
S1AMEZE, you have asked a really good question. Over the years, we've been able to adapt and work-around all of the various engine management systems out there. None of them were perfect, until we started using the FCON. We are distributors for both TurboXS, and HKS, so I dont really have a vested interest in supporting one vendor over another. The UTEC is still the best ECU in the sub $1000 range, and could certaintly power a car to 600whp+...which we demonstarted on my car. BUT, the FCON provides a much higher level of feedback and control, and will result in a much smoother and safer tune across the entire map. With a high boost car, and the UTEC, we are limited by resolution, so it becomes nearly impossible to get a perfectly clean tune at part throttle/high boost with the UTEC. Any super high powered car deservse the most sophisticated and fastest ECU on the market. There is a good market for both systems, but the FCON is definately your best bet, if total perfection is your goal.
The limitation of the FCON, is the lack of tuners on a national basis, but once you make the trip to an HKS Pro Dealer, you should not need a retune ever again.
I tuned Eaglegreen's care with the UTEC first, then we switch to the FCON. Stock block at around 450whp dyno dynamics on both systems. His first comment after his test drive was WOOOOWWWW: The engine was so smooth and crisp across the entire powerband. He said it was worth every penny.
The limitation of the FCON, is the lack of tuners on a national basis, but once you make the trip to an HKS Pro Dealer, you should not need a retune ever again.
I tuned Eaglegreen's care with the UTEC first, then we switch to the FCON. Stock block at around 450whp dyno dynamics on both systems. His first comment after his test drive was WOOOOWWWW: The engine was so smooth and crisp across the entire powerband. He said it was worth every penny.
10-25-2006 | 09:52 AM
#109
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
10-25-2006 | 10:17 AM
#110
Hmm exhaust goes from 3.5" downpipe/midpipe to 3.0" exhaust (haven't switched it yet) with the electronic cutout. Motor/turbo pictures I can get as many as you want. Exhaust will be a little tougher as it is sitting on the ground and the lift the Z shares with has another car that is being worked on. PM me any pictures you want and I will send them over. I really don't want to take over Bam Bam's thead even though I would like to since he is about to beat me on dyno numbers!!!
Originally Posted by EM-EFER
I checked those out.. But I would really like to see the nitty gritty pics of the exhaust, motor ect....
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10-25-2006 | 12:57 PM
#111
Originally Posted by InjectedPerf
I really don't want to take over Bam Bam's thead even though I would like to since he is about to beat me on dyno numbers!!!
10-25-2006 | 02:00 PM
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From: Marietta, GA
Originally Posted by sandy@forged
LOL...exactly. Greg and I are good friends, so I can tolerate his intrusion...haha!
10-25-2006 | 02:08 PM
#113
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
S1AMEZE, you have asked a really good question. Over the years, we've been able to adapt and work-around all of the various engine management systems out there. None of them were perfect, until we started using the FCON. We are distributors for both TurboXS, and HKS, so I dont really have a vested interest in supporting one vendor over another. The UTEC is still the best ECU in the sub $1000 range, and could certaintly power a car to 600whp+...which we demonstarted on my car. BUT, the FCON provides a much higher level of feedback and control, and will result in a much smoother and safer tune across the entire map. With a high boost car, and the UTEC, we are limited by resolution, so it becomes nearly impossible to get a perfectly clean tune at part throttle/high boost with the UTEC. Any super high powered car deservse the most sophisticated and fastest ECU on the market. There is a good market for both systems, but the FCON is definately your best bet, if total perfection is your goal.
The limitation of the FCON, is the lack of tuners on a national basis, but once you make the trip to an HKS Pro Dealer, you should not need a retune ever again.
I tuned Eaglegreen's care with the UTEC first, then we switch to the FCON. Stock block at around 450whp dyno dynamics on both systems. His first comment after his test drive was WOOOOWWWW: The engine was so smooth and crisp across the entire powerband. He said it was worth every penny.
The limitation of the FCON, is the lack of tuners on a national basis, but once you make the trip to an HKS Pro Dealer, you should not need a retune ever again.
I tuned Eaglegreen's care with the UTEC first, then we switch to the FCON. Stock block at around 450whp dyno dynamics on both systems. His first comment after his test drive was WOOOOWWWW: The engine was so smooth and crisp across the entire powerband. He said it was worth every penny.
10-25-2006 | 02:20 PM
#114
there is just no comparison none, night and day difference. It's just incredible.
I didn't like my UTEC because as mentioned by Sharif it seemed to not know what to do when under higher boost/part throttle
10-25-2006 | 02:30 PM
#115
Originally Posted by trefling
Can you please give me an example, I"m getting a FCON as well and would like to know more on your personal experience between the UTEC & HKS.
I didn't like my UTEC because as mentioned by Sharif it seemed to not know what to do when under higher boost/part throttle
I didn't like my UTEC because as mentioned by Sharif it seemed to not know what to do when under higher boost/part throttle
10-25-2006 | 02:40 PM
#116
Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Cadillac smooth
FCon VPro All the way!
-George
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10-25-2006 | 02:44 PM
#117
Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Cadillac smooth
+1. It drives like the factory ECU. The throttle response is so crisp. The only problem I have with mine and it isn't really a problem is that sometimes after a WOT run when I come to a complete stop the idle will be a little jumpy, but it catches itself after a few seconds. Any FCON pros know why this happens?
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10-25-2006 | 02:47 PM
#118
Originally Posted by Gman2004
+1. It drives like the factory ECU. The only problem I have with mine and it isn't really a problem is that sometimes after a WOT run when I come to a complete stop the idle will be a little jumpy, but it cathes it self after a few seconds. Any FCON pros know why this happens?
Yeah me too!
10-25-2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
+1. It drives like the factory ECU. The throttle response is so crisp. The only problem I have with mine and it isn't really a problem is that sometimes after a WOT run when I come to a complete stop the idle will be a little jumpy, but it catches itself after a few seconds. Any FCON pros know why this happens?
You guys are right. The best way to describe the FCON experience, is a total OEM, and seamless powerband...just like a factory turbo car. No glitches or hickups, regardless of RPM or throttle position.
10-25-2006 | 04:24 PM
#120
how will his chassis holdup on his ZR with those numbers? I may go the same route and I'm concerned. I don't think a traditional rollcage would allow the zr to retain the functionality.