600+ whp thread
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12-18-2006, 04:29 PM
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Hey everyone. I was wondering if anyone with 600+ horsepower would be willing to PM me so I can pick their brain. I'm looking to start w/ an APS TT kit and just wanna get a feel for other parts to upgrade w/ it. Thanks in advance.
12-18-2006, 04:38 PM
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Wow, this thread is already beginning to get off on the wrong foot!!!
Agent, best to search through the forums a little bit. There are a ton of threads here with fantastic information. Anything you can think of has likely been discussed.
If you are at the "ready to purchase" stage, PM me as I have an APS kit for sale right now...
Anyway, welcome aboard
Agent, best to search through the forums a little bit. There are a ton of threads here with fantastic information. Anything you can think of has likely been discussed.
If you are at the "ready to purchase" stage, PM me as I have an APS kit for sale right now...
Anyway, welcome aboard
12-18-2006, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
Well I think I want to drive over to your shop so I can join the 600hp club. God only knows what my car would make on your dyno.
Great, by all means come down, hell I will even help you to get out here if it will make you stop with your sniffling about our "magic dyno"...Gimme a break.
-ONE MORE TIME- FYI, Most of all of our dyno tunes and runs have been, and are done at JWT (Jim Wolf Technologies) by Jim Wolf and Clark Stepler, maybe you have heard of them.
Hahaha We even sometimes (the same day) go to the Dyno Shop and usually almost always duplicate what we got at JWT. This is all done on Dyno Packs, Dyno Jets, Dyno Dynamics that are callibrated regularly. So just because you (or your shop) can't come up with the same numbers that we (or others) can, doesn't mean that you should go digging deep for a reason to discredit our hard work and deserving high WHP numbers.
Interesting thread...... https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/231778-dyno-graphs-from-3-shops.html
Sory to threadjack.......
Back to the topic
12-18-2006, 08:30 PM
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I have talked to Jim, several times actually before i purchased my JWT. As a matter of fact he was the one that convinced me to upgrade my turbos since above 500 hp the 530s run out of steam. I just find it amazing that your dyno numbers far exceed anyone else's with equal psi and motor comp. AFR and timing isnt rocket science I guess you got your dyno from the old man that sold Jack his beanstalk beans.
It isnt just me that has called you out in the past and I know your dyno will inflate TQ numbers but some of your claims are over the top.
It isnt just me that has called you out in the past and I know your dyno will inflate TQ numbers but some of your claims are over the top.
12-18-2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
I have talked to Jim, several times actually before i purchased my JWT. As a matter of fact he was the one that convinced me to upgrade my turbos since above 500 hp the 530s run out of steam. I just find it amazing that your dyno numbers far exceed anyone else's with equal psi and motor comp. AFR and timing isnt rocket science I guess you got your dyno from the old man that sold Jack his beanstalk beans.
It isnt just me that has called you out in the past and I know your dyno will inflate TQ numbers but some of your claims are over the top.
It isnt just me that has called you out in the past and I know your dyno will inflate TQ numbers but some of your claims are over the top.
Here is some pics of a dyno run done at JWT by Jim Wolf and Clark Steppler on 350NV's car with a JWT 530 BB Tt kit, THE SAME KIT YOU HAVE
and another with the G35 withb the JWT 700BB Tt kit, also dynoed at, and by JWT.....
Video of it... http://www.violentracing.com/VideoGa...Dyno_20PSI.flv
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12-18-2006, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
I have talked to Jim, several times actually before i purchased my JWT. As a matter of fact he was the one that convinced me to upgrade my turbos since above 500 hp the 530s run out of steam. I just find it amazing that your dyno numbers far exceed anyone else's with equal psi and motor comp. AFR and timing isnt rocket science I guess you got your dyno from the old man that sold Jack his beanstalk beans.
It isnt just me that has called you out in the past and I know your dyno will inflate TQ numbers but some of your claims are over the top.
It isnt just me that has called you out in the past and I know your dyno will inflate TQ numbers but some of your claims are over the top.
but i am sure there were technical dificulties.
12-18-2006, 09:19 PM
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Hahaha, Are you blind or just ignorant? We don't even have a dyno, we use JWT and The Dyno Shops dyno's. So, it is JWT himself that you are calling a liar. Why didn't you ask Jim "while you were on the phone with him" if the numbers we, or should I say he made are in fact what I can show you on THEIR dyno sheets? Are you sitting there calling Jim Wolf a BS'er? Can you not read where the dyno sheets came from? Ask Jim again before you go and run your mouth some more, I have proved it before, and I can prove it again. And what about Stillen and their dyno, and the 300-500 plus people that saw us (with their own eyes) dyno there at Stillen Days, are all of them in on our conspiracy too!?? What about the Dyno shop, and all the other dyno's... All BS I guess, Hahaha, Sheeesh.
i like you bro, but comparing you with stillen is just bad. i have my doubts but i give you guys 1000000000000000000000x more respect than stillen
12-18-2006, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
and... one of the magazine articles that featured a VRT G35 dynoed about 100 to 150 lower when the magazine dynoed the car.
but i am sure there were technical dificulties.
but i am sure there were technical dificulties.
12-18-2006, 09:25 PM
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Yea, at 3 PSI less of boost, pump gas, with the car spinning the tires on the dyno. Nice try "Sugar"
lots of people claim lots of things. you know and i know that dyno numbers can be manipulated. tune, octane, boost, are not always disclosed. these are big factors that make a big difference.
if i ran my car on C16 i would make huge numbers compared to my humble 375whp on 91.
12-18-2006, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
putting yourself in the same boat as stillen is bad. stillen is the king of BS and false prophesies.
i like you bro, but comparing you with stillen is just bad. i have my doubts but i give you guys 1000000000000000000000x more respect than stillen
i like you bro, but comparing you with stillen is just bad. i have my doubts but i give you guys 1000000000000000000000x more respect than stillen
At Stillen Days we, allong with about 75 other cars (mostley Z's and G's) ran on their dyno (in front of everyone) and most people ran the same numbers that day as they do elsewhere.
12-18-2006, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
nah bro i am not trying to hate. i didnt know that was the case. if what you say it true it make sense.
lots of people claim lots of things. you know and i know that dyno numbers can be manipulated. tune, octane, boost, are not always disclosed. these are big factors that make a big difference.
if i ran my car on C16 i would make huge numbers compared to my humble 375whp on 91.
lots of people claim lots of things. you know and i know that dyno numbers can be manipulated. tune, octane, boost, are not always disclosed. these are big factors that make a big difference.
if i ran my car on C16 i would make huge numbers compared to my humble 375whp on 91.
12-18-2006, 10:39 PM
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Congrats on the #'s yet again Silver.. I know that is fun to drive over there in that heat. :|
Not sure if I should post in the 600 or the 700 club, I guess it depends on what dyno #'s you want to read
666 on a Dyno Dynamics, and 742whp on a Dyno Jet. (Before the engine gave up the ghost that is.. LOL)
Not sure if I should post in the 600 or the 700 club, I guess it depends on what dyno #'s you want to read
666 on a Dyno Dynamics, and 742whp on a Dyno Jet. (Before the engine gave up the ghost that is.. LOL)
12-19-2006, 08:09 AM
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I've seen the above 760whp dyno in a couple different VRT vids, one says 20psi, one says 24psi, and they both use the same exact dyno chart...
VRT 760whp 20psi
VRT 760whp 24psi
50-180~ MPH in less than 7 seconds
Don't say I am hating on VRT because I am not. You guy's are out there tracking your cars and building some fast cars - kudos...
End All Be All Proof Thread...? - I read through this thread and forget about dyno power level variances - those dyno curves look nothing alike...? Also, wouldn't a more accurate comparison be the same boost levels on two different dynos on the same day? At a bare minimum get the dyno charts scaled correctly - TQ & HP don't cross at 4200 or 4400 rpms
440wtq at 1800 rmps
Heck the TQ & HP cross at 2000rpms on your 91 octane dyno chart 
At the end of the day, all of these cars are fast! It's the driver that exposes just how fast they can be... Niles RobiSpec EVO won the time attack with only 400whp...
VRT 760whp 20psi
VRT 760whp 24psi
50-180~ MPH in less than 7 seconds
Don't say I am hating on VRT because I am not. You guy's are out there tracking your cars and building some fast cars - kudos...
End All Be All Proof Thread...? - I read through this thread and forget about dyno power level variances - those dyno curves look nothing alike...? Also, wouldn't a more accurate comparison be the same boost levels on two different dynos on the same day? At a bare minimum get the dyno charts scaled correctly - TQ & HP don't cross at 4200 or 4400 rpms
440wtq at 1800 rmps
Heck the TQ & HP cross at 2000rpms on your 91 octane dyno chart At the end of the day, all of these cars are fast! It's the driver that exposes just how fast they can be... Niles RobiSpec EVO won the time attack with only 400whp...
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12-19-2006, 08:32 AM
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Dude, those dyno charts and the fact that you guys stand by them and make excuses all the time, are at the least an insult to all intelligent 350z/G35 owners accross the globe..Disgusting, simply disgusting..
12-19-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Philthy
I've seen the above 760whp dyno in a couple different VRT vids, one says 20psi, one says 24psi, and they both use the same exact dyno chart...
VRT 760whp 20psi
VRT 760whp 24psi
50-180~ MPH in less than 7 seconds
Don't say I am hating on VRT because I am not. You guy's are out there tracking your cars and building some fast cars - kudos...
End All Be All Proof Thread...? - I read through this thread and forget about dyno power level variances - those dyno curves look nothing alike...? Also, wouldn't a more accurate comparison be the same boost levels on two different dynos on the same day? At a bare minimum get the dyno charts scaled correctly - TQ & HP don't cross at 4200 or 4400 rpms
440wtq at 1800 rmps Heck the TQ & HP cross at 2000rpms on your 91 octane dyno chart
At the end of the day, all of these cars are fast! It's the driver that exposes just how fast they can be... Niles RobiSpec EVO won the time attack with only 400whp...
VRT 760whp 20psi
VRT 760whp 24psi
50-180~ MPH in less than 7 seconds
Don't say I am hating on VRT because I am not. You guy's are out there tracking your cars and building some fast cars - kudos...
End All Be All Proof Thread...? - I read through this thread and forget about dyno power level variances - those dyno curves look nothing alike...? Also, wouldn't a more accurate comparison be the same boost levels on two different dynos on the same day? At a bare minimum get the dyno charts scaled correctly - TQ & HP don't cross at 4200 or 4400 rpms
440wtq at 1800 rmps
Heck the TQ & HP cross at 2000rpms on your 91 octane dyno chart At the end of the day, all of these cars are fast! It's the driver that exposes just how fast they can be... Niles RobiSpec EVO won the time attack with only 400whp...
As far as the dyno charts in the other thread, they are not ours, just a customer of ours (who moved to the East Coast) that got his own independantly done dyno runs at a few different shops/dyno's. It shows how close to the original JWT dyno they all are, since every is quick to say JWT has a magic dyno (just for us). Might wanna look at the other dyno charts you are refering to and learn how to read them better. Sharif understands how to read them, maybe he can/will explain it to you.
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12-19-2006, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
that is if you are smart enough, and openminded enough to pay attention.
Might wanna look at the other dyno charts you are refering to and learn how to read them better. Sharif understands how to read them, maybe he can/will explain it to you.
Might wanna look at the other dyno charts you are refering to and learn how to read them better. Sharif understands how to read them, maybe he can/will explain it to you.
I talked with Sharif and other reputable tuners about your claims and dyno charts, and they just laugh...
Tell you what, let's start here - please explain to everyone how you made 440wtq at 1800 rpms...