I know, I corrected it later saying it was that other company that puts out those modified GT3's



yeah but they all put strain on the engine, in different ways and dependent on how the person drives

 

(sarcasm)it is really tough to judge the Pro-SC guys versus the Pro-turbo guys in this thread(end sarcasm)

LOL

 

boost is boost genius. turbo boost is no different from supercharger boost, it's all compressed air.

So again.......exactly HOW do turbos REQUIRE more maintenance? I fail to see or have any experience with that, after owning turbo cars for the past 4 years.

 

I really like both but each serves different purpose IMO. One is better for one thing and one for the other, simple as that. I have several friends with Turbo Z's just wanted to do something a little different. Thinking outside the Turbo. Check out some pics taken of the Z @ the dragon a while back http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/ViewAlbum.aspx?a=326558 nothing like the whine of a s/c and the bov on a turbo singing in perfect harmony.

 

o rly? then what about those people with blown motors that stillen isn't doing anything about?

and Stillen...as far as FI goes, is almost a joke on the VQ. You ned good mods and stage 3-4 to make over 300whp with it!

 

You are correct its how the compressed air enters and is used in the engine that makes the difference. Thanks for the compliment although I dont consider myself one.

 

A stage 3 or 4 alone makes over 300whp with no supporting mods actually cats and or headers make it loose power and boost. HP is really not what it was made for. Reliability, fun and check out that TQ curve. As far as people not getting their warranties granted I couldn't tell you, every company has guidelines which need to be followed, same could be said with car manufacturers. Plus the warranty is an extra item that needs to be purchased and used in conjunction with a stage 2 only. Like I said before guidelines, sometimes they are tricky.

 

I like turbos just fine and came pretty close to going with a twin turbo setup and think they're a good setup on the Z as well

I just don't like senseless bias where everything that is not _____ sucks when clearly there's fast cars out there with all types of FI.

The new Lotus Exige S is a fast car and uses a roots-type supercharger setup. So does the Ford GT and GT500, Ariel Atom, top fuel cars, etc

There's some fast turbo/twin turbo cars - the usual suspects

centrifugal superchargers typically aren't on a lot of production cars because of their gear noise at low rpm idles and for low daily driving rpms at WOT they don't put out much power. They're more common on lots of modified cars and personal race cars where the idea is you're going to be high up in the powerband anyway, or people that want to shape the powerband differently so the tq is relatively flat from mid-high rpms

nitrous typically doesn't come on anything but a modified car or purpose built race car (not going to argue if it's actually "FI" or not, who cares)

then there's lots of really fast NA cars with no FI at all and there's lots of setups for them as well - high reving, small liter engines with aggressive gearing. And then there's big liter, lower reving engines with weaker gearing and less shifting.

just pros and cons. I'm not a fan of extreme bias. It sucks when at the end of the day it's about going fast and enjoying a car

 

Well guys thanks, I think...

anyway I've made my decision to go with an APS TT kit and built motor.

 

I couldn't agree more, I am done with this thread plus its lunch time Need to fuel the tank for the love machine c-ya!

 

I tend to agree that the turbos are more hands free with mainenance as far as turning any wrenches, but more monitoring is needed. There's more parts to potentially go wrong which can lead to hurting the engine, like a boost controller possibly getting wrong info from a sensor, boost spikes, a wastegate malfunctioning, heat needs to be taken a little more seriously. Twin turbos have 2x as many turbos to monitor or fix if something bad DID happen.

Not saying any of those things will go wrong with most installs or anything, usually they don't and overall running a turbo will be less maintenance under the hood. But it's the potential of if something did go wrong, it can go very wrong

If something goes wrong with a SC like a belt issue or gearing issue, it usually it doesn't have the potential to hurt the actual engine

With any added power, you're going to have to monitor the car more often than stock

 

Good choice just make sure you find a reliable shop that has worked on them, GL

 

I don't know..but can't really say S/C is more reliable/safer and require less care than Turbo set-up..
I guess S/C is more suitable for Track use since it doesn't have lags..instant power at low RPM during cornering..

 

Yup I dont know how to drive Our synchro issues are well documented, Nobody knows the tranny's power limit of failure. For you to sit there and try to argue that my turbo's power caused the tranny to break is stupid as $hit-are you implying it wouldnt happen with a S/C? The last tranny was 100% my fault, but guess what?....the same thing would have happened with a S/C adding power and being flogged like I did (or eventually NA) so what was your point again Captain obvious?

 

Point is with more power comes a higher probability of failure from our already weak trannys. I used you as an example not saying it couldn't happen with a S/C. You catch on quick I see (sarcasm), welcome back. You seemed to be a little on the subject so I was just trying to put things in a way you would understand. Captain Obvious Away (fly's off)

 

You think I dont know more power could potentially lead to stress and parts failures? If your so worried you shoulda stayed NA-oh wait you did the closest thing-you went Stillen

 

Sadly your right. Originally I went all out N/A. It was fun but in the end I felt like the Z was laking just a little more. Since my Z is daily driven I scratched out a turbo form the start. Lag would be a pain around town, gas consumtion would increase & reliablity would be unknown? I wanted some get up and go that looked and sounded well without all the headache. I am not a street or drag racer so all that power high up would be useless. I do ocassionaly like to cruise with some other Z owners and have a good time. So your right I did choose the next best thing and so far no regrets

 

Now let me enjoy my steak while watching your death of third tranny vid off your sig j/k

 

This has been covered numerous times, and some people are biased, but, I would figure out what you hope to accomplish with your car in terms of performance, then make a decision on what FI setup you want. TT kits are going to have the most potential, and S/C's are more lilnear and moderate. I will be happy with a mid to low 12 second Z as my daily driver, but later down the road after I purchase my new crib, I would build and go TT.