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12-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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Definitely the same issue I have right now. Your third gear engagement ring separated itself from the main gear. The good news is the rest of your trans is fine. The bad news is unless you can buy just third gear from PAR, you're going to have a very expensive build on your hands if you want to make sure it won't break again.
PAR "should" offer the gears individually if asked....
PAR "should" offer the gears individually if asked....
well just have to open it up and see. but i dont want to do this twice.. so thats why i wanan be on the safe side
12-04-2008, 01:38 PM
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Does anyone know where I can buy 009 transmissions for cheap? I know people sell them privately on here, just wondering if any vendors or companies keep an inventory.
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12-05-2008, 06:42 PM
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This thread was a sticky back when we first made it I think.
As for individual gears, PAR does sell them for other cars (I almost got PAR 3rd and 4th for my car but went with PPG instead) so it's worth looking in to. I contacted PAR about a year to a year and half ago about trying to get a custom 3rd gear made and they said they didn't have any plans at the time to do any 350Z stuff, but maybe they had things in the works then or it has been a more recent development.
As for individual gears, PAR does sell them for other cars (I almost got PAR 3rd and 4th for my car but went with PPG instead) so it's worth looking in to. I contacted PAR about a year to a year and half ago about trying to get a custom 3rd gear made and they said they didn't have any plans at the time to do any 350Z stuff, but maybe they had things in the works then or it has been a more recent development.
12-11-2008, 01:38 AM
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the didnt answer my mail (PAR)...ill guess il have to mail them again..what did you pay for your gears? i have talked to PPG as well but they said they didnt have anything for me
12-11-2008, 08:27 PM
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My PPG 3rd and 4th would have been about $1500 without the discount I got through work. Not sure what the exchange rates are doing right now, and I don't have a current PPG price list. My last price list is a Sept 2007 list I think, and it's on a computer that is broken at the moment.
12-15-2008, 06:55 AM
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Yes, it's not cheap. The full gear set for my car (1st through 4th and the input shaft) is like $4600 and then of course you have to pay for installation which will probably run you another grand if you can't do it yourself. I work at a race transmission shop and it's what we do all day every day so there are definitely people out there willing to do it. Either that or you can just pay almost a thousand bucks every year or whatever because you keep breaking gears and have to get a new trans or get your existing trans fixed, and have to deal with having your car out of commission for however long it takes to fix it.
To me it's a no-brainer. I didn't get 1st or 2nd because I'm not making the kind of torque required to break those, but I was breaking 3rd or 4th ever few months and I'd much rather pay the money up front and have peace of mind than pay later and more importantly, worry every time I floor my car that I'm going to break it yet again. It made having a car with as much power as I had not fun, it was just stressful every time I pushed it.
To me it's a no-brainer. I didn't get 1st or 2nd because I'm not making the kind of torque required to break those, but I was breaking 3rd or 4th ever few months and I'd much rather pay the money up front and have peace of mind than pay later and more importantly, worry every time I floor my car that I'm going to break it yet again. It made having a car with as much power as I had not fun, it was just stressful every time I pushed it.
12-16-2008, 04:16 AM
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Response from PPG Transmission in Australia via e-mail: I inquired on a 350Z gearbox upgrade.
Mike,
We CAN make these for you and we have dimensioned a sample gearbox ready to do this job.
We require a 5 set minimum order to go ahead. The boxes are complex and as a full 1st to 6th dog set they would cost about $11,000aud each. Which is about $7K USD.
Regards, Tim Possingham.
Mike,
We CAN make these for you and we have dimensioned a sample gearbox ready to do this job.
We require a 5 set minimum order to go ahead. The boxes are complex and as a full 1st to 6th dog set they would cost about $11,000aud each. Which is about $7K USD.
Regards, Tim Possingham.
12-16-2008, 06:00 AM
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Don't know about shipping but would be expensive for the most part...but that wouldn't
stop me. Lets see if there is any interest and go from that. I can call Forged and see what Sharif
thinks too.
stop me. Lets see if there is any interest and go from that. I can call Forged and see what Sharif
thinks too.
12-16-2008, 07:52 AM
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Response from PPG Transmission in Australia via e-mail: I inquired on a 350Z gearbox upgrade.
Mike,
We CAN make these for you and we have dimensioned a sample gearbox ready to do this job.
We require a 5 set minimum order to go ahead. The boxes are complex and as a full 1st to 6th dog set they would cost about $11,000aud each. Which is about $7K USD.
Regards, Tim Possingham.
Mike,
We CAN make these for you and we have dimensioned a sample gearbox ready to do this job.
We require a 5 set minimum order to go ahead. The boxes are complex and as a full 1st to 6th dog set they would cost about $11,000aud each. Which is about $7K USD.
Regards, Tim Possingham.
EDIT: I had a brain fart this morning. If the new gears are STRAIGHT CUT then it will whine like crazy, if not then it will just have harsher engagement (dog cut gears replacing synchros).
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12-16-2008, 08:59 AM
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Response from PPG Transmission in Australia via e-mail: I inquired on a 350Z gearbox upgrade.
Mike,
We CAN make these for you and we have dimensioned a sample gearbox ready to do this job.
We require a 5 set minimum order to go ahead. The boxes are complex and as a full 1st to 6th dog set they would cost about $11,000aud each. Which is about $7K USD.
Regards, Tim Possingham.
Mike,
We CAN make these for you and we have dimensioned a sample gearbox ready to do this job.
We require a 5 set minimum order to go ahead. The boxes are complex and as a full 1st to 6th dog set they would cost about $11,000aud each. Which is about $7K USD.
Regards, Tim Possingham.
12-16-2008, 09:23 AM
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Had a buddy with a Jericho trans in his viper (thats the same trans they run in Nascar), with straight cut gears and what not.......
Whine is an understatement lol. Don't know how much better dog gears would be. And his, if you missed a shift.....yea you were pulling over and starting from a standstill (no synchros), could never get the perfect rpm again to hit a gear from a roll lol. But when you didn't miss a shift, damn it was a fast shift.
Whine is an understatement lol. Don't know how much better dog gears would be. And his, if you missed a shift.....yea you were pulling over and starting from a standstill (no synchros), could never get the perfect rpm again to hit a gear from a roll lol. But when you didn't miss a shift, damn it was a fast shift.
12-16-2008, 12:00 PM
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I bet we could find a place willing to make a stronger stock replacement 3rd gear for a reasonable cost. 7 grand is insane. Especially since most of the trans is just fine....
12-16-2008, 02:40 PM
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I don't think anyone said anything about $4500 for just one gear, at least I didn't. It's conceivable we could get something going for a few hundred bucks.
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