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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
As much as I'd like to have the FCON, I'm not thrilled about having to run to my authorized dealer everytime I want to switch maps to run higher boost and racegas. The V-Pro isn't multi-map switchable by the driver, right?
Users can switch maps on their own, either via the side mounted dip switches, or the more elegant Navigator Pro.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Users can switch maps on their own, either via the side mounted dip switches, or the more elegant Navigator Pro.

From my understandign the navigator pro only allowed small adjustments, rather than new maps.

I have two boost settings on my setup though both for 92 octane. My tuner just tuned the map to include both boost settings and I merely hit a switch on my EBC to change from 12 psi to 17 psi
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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zivman- I have a conservative tune on my UniChip right now and switch my EBC when I want to run higher octane fuel. In my mind, that means the tune isn't really optimal for either boost setting.

I guess I better read some FCON threads and get up to speed. You guys have given me hope.

Sharif, are you still thinking about a trip to Portland for a tuning flurry?

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
From my understandign the navigator pro only allowed small adjustments, rather than new maps.

I have two boost settings on my setup though both for 92 octane. My tuner just tuned the map to include both boost settings and I merely hit a switch on my EBC to change from 12 psi to 17 psi
The Navigator Pro allows the user to switch up to 3 ignition and 3 fuel sub maps. The sub maps allow for up to 25% changes in fuel, and unlimited changes to timing, so it's very capable. There is no need to create an entirely new map, just to richen or lean out AF, or add or subtract a few degrees of timing.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
zivman- I have a conservative tune on my UniChip right now and switch my EBC when I want to run higher octane fuel. In my mind, that means the tune isn't really optimal for either boost setting.

I guess I better read some FCON threads and get up to speed. You guys have given me hope.

Sharif, are you still thinking about a trip to Portland for a tuning flurry?
Yes, whenever you guys are ready.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
zivman- I have a conservative tune on my UniChip right now and switch my EBC when I want to run higher octane fuel. In my mind, that means the tune isn't really optimal for either boost setting.

I guess I better read some FCON threads and get up to speed. You guys have given me hope.

Sharif, are you still thinking about a trip to Portland for a tuning flurry?
The unichip is an entirely different beast than the Fcon. My tune incorporates both boost settings. Think of it like this; my tune is for 17 psi, but I can turn the boost down to 12 psi when I want to. The Fcon is tuned for both points and with the additon of the AFR/knock amp, the EMS is constantly monitoring what is going on. Heck, even when I popped a coupler, my AFRs where still dead on, and the car still ran perfect - beyond not making boost. Basically, You just need to make sure you don't hit a boost level that has not been tuned for
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
The unichip is an entirely different beast than the Fcon. My tune incorporates both boost settings. Think of it like this; my tune is for 17 psi, but I can turn the boost down to 12 psi when I want to. The Fcon is tuned for both points and with the additon of the AFR/knock amp, the EMS is constantly monitoring what is going on. Heck, even when I popped a coupler, my AFRs where still dead on, and the car still ran perfect - beyond not making boost. Basically, You just need to make sure you don't hit a boost level that has not been tuned for
Thats correct. The resolution is exceptional, so you can run one main fuel map for fuel and timing...from 0psi up to 40psi if you wanted to. The sub mapping allows the user to run different fuels (different timing or AF calibration), but is not needed, just to run a different boost level, on pump gas.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Thanks for the additional info Sharif. Do you happen to know what the largest Tial BOV is and is it a reliable good sounding piece? I don't really like the high pitched notes of the Type S and HKS SSQV.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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the Tial or the big Vortech.....that Vortech is a HUGE 57mm!!!!


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