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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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i've only heard good things about both kits, so i would say, either way you're a winner! but just think about what your long term goals are as well. if you want to build in the future, aps would be a lot easier.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
The JWT BB 530 kit uses GT2554Rs. The BB700 kit uses GT2860Rs and the APS regular kit uses something resembling a GT2871R. No one knows for sure what the APS Extreme kit uses though...I personally think the APS Extreme kit uses a pair of GT3076Rs but like I said, no one knows for sure...Attached are the compressor maps for the 2554, 2860, 2871, and 3076. That would be the JWT BB530, BB700, APS standard kit, and APS Extreme kit in that order.
Thanks for posting that. Twin GT2871r's is a lot of flow. Clearly the APS has the upper hand in the turbo flow department.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Not to mention if I need any part of that JWT TT Kit It's available the next business day straight from JWT. Turbonetics has great customer service as well. That goes a long way...
They APS could be gold plated and wipe my *** for me and for the above reason I would never again buy APS products.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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They APS could be gold plated and wipe my *** for me and for the above reason I would never again buy APS products.
Trust me I know... I've seen customers deal with crazy crazy down time cause they delt with company xyz. Ive seen them yelling on the phone cause of what ever. I won't mention the details. Cause it would be seriously unprofessional. When choosing FI the most imortant thing is SERVICE/Reliabilty...
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
Cause it would be seriously unprofessional. When choosing FI the most imortant thing is SERVICE/Reliabilty...
Why is it unprofessional to state your experiances with a company. If it protects people from making a mistake then thats kinda what all this forum stuff is about isn't it?
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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GREDDY TT FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!haha...sorry i had 2
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 98sr20ve
Why is it unprofessional to state your experiances with a company. If it protects people from making a mistake then thats kinda what all this forum stuff is about isn't it?
I agree with you... However there is so much mud throwing on this site. I try hard to stay away from it.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
I agree with you... However there is so much mud throwing on this site. I try hard to stay away from it.

Hahaha..... +1
I 100% agree with you there.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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my goal right now is to get my car to make just over 400 horses and the shop that im working with (Function Tuned) already recomended and guarantied their work if installing a fuel return system along with other goodies to make this a safe set up.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKYLINE
my goal right now is to get my car to make just over 400 horses and the shop that im working with (Function Tuned) already recomended and guarantied their work if installing a fuel return system along with other goodies to make this a safe set up.
I know someone who got his work done by Function Tuned. You're in good hands. I would go with Dave's advice on getting a fuel return. For 400whp JWT is a good setup.

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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Anyone know what the injector duty cycle is on the stock injectors, with the JWT kit, at around 400 whp?
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
Trust me I know... I've seen customers deal with crazy crazy down time cause they delt with company xyz. Ive seen them yelling on the phone cause of what ever. I won't mention the details. Cause it would be seriously unprofessional. When choosing FI the most imortant thing is SERVICE/Reliabilty...
Rob,
We have been installing and selling APS products for over 2 1/2 years now, and as you know, Im sure we have not had to date, one single problem with any APS Turbo kit..Im willing to bet most problems on any turbo kit are install related. APS is using the EXACT SAME TURBO manufacturer as JWT. So therefore the only theoredical part to go bad would be the turbos, which can be overnighted from ATP turbo, one of Garrets leading distributers, in 1 day from any reputable APS dealer.
This leaves the only other parts to fail as being the UNICHIP and injectors, but, oh wait....Thats right..The JWT kit does not include such items. At any rate, both items can be replaced very swiftly also..
I am frankly tired of watching guys like you bash a good product, simply cause you purchased the compeditors product...When you have logged over 50,000 miles on a JWT kit and countless track passes on a stock motor as well as many hot laps a Watkins glen..You let me know, then you may talk smack...
Im not trying to start drama, but simply trying to defend a perfectly good, compeditive product...We stand behind every APS kit we have installed and sold..Recently I have had JWT customers Calling me asking me to service their kits cause the shop they were dealing with went out of business, or dissapeared..so wheres the customer service there Rob?? We have been here over 4 years, and are not going anywhere, anytime soon..
Both turbo kits have their plus and minuses in the pros and cons department, however dollar for dollar, I can not think of a more complete and well thought out turbo kit other than the APS TT kit...For the bang for the buck you get more items,more control and more power than any kit out of the box.Period..
Customer service is in the hands of the shop that is installing and selling the products...Not to say JWT does not make a great kit, Im sure their kit is fine and works great, but lets just tell both sides of the story Rob, since your the official JWT spokesman on the East coast now..

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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I love the JWT TT kit!! I would agree with the above statement that the customer service boils down to the shop you have install the kit and not necessarily the manufacturer. There is nothing I would rather drive than my JWT TT kit at this point. Bottom line is everyone is going to have their opinions and usually it is what they drive....so take everythin with a g rain of salt and get some rides in all these different cars with the kit to see what you like the best and duplicate that setup.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Rob,
We have been installing and selling APS products for over 2 1/2 years now, and as you know, Im sure we have not had to date, one single problem with any APS Turbo kit..Im willing to bet most problems on any turbo kit are install related. APS is using the EXACT SAME TURBO manufacturer as JWT. So therefore the only theoredical part to go bad would be the turbos, which can be overnighted from ATP turbo, one of Garrets leading distributers, in 1 day from any reputable APS dealer.
This leaves the only other parts to fail as being the UNICHIP and injectors, but, oh wait....Thats right..The JWT kit does not include such items. At any rate, both items can be replaced very swiftly also..
I am frankly tired of watching guys like you bash a good product, simply cause you purchased the compeditors product...When you have logged over 50,000 miles on a JWT kit and countless track passes on a stock motor as well as many hot laps a Watkins glen..You let me know, then you may talk smack...
Im not trying to start drama, but simply trying to defend a perfectly good, compeditive product...We stand behind every APS kit we have installed and sold..Recently I have had JWT customers Calling me asking me to service their kits cause the shop they were dealing with went out of business, or dissapeared..so wheres the customer service there Rob?? We have been here over 4 years, and are not going anywhere, anytime soon..
Both turbo kits have their plus and minuses in the pros and cons department, however dollar for dollar, I can not think of a more complete and well thought out turbo kit other than the APS TT kit...For the bang for the buck you get more items,more control and more power than any kit out of the box.Period..
Customer service is in the hands of the shop that is installing and selling the products...Not to say JWT does not make a great kit, Im sure their kit is fine and works great, but lets just tell both sides of the story Rob, since your the official JWT spokesman on the East coast now..
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THe XYZ Company I refered to was not APS... Go ahead and asume all you want. As far as PM not servicing there customers e-mail PM on that. Vinny has set up his new shop is and willing to service PM customers. Yes there was a two month down time... The Rubios pulled out and left my friends out to dry...

Vinny's new shop...

Vinny Ten Racing
110 Field Street
West Babylon, NY 11704

(631) 414-7590

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
Juiles

THe XYZ Company I refered to was not APS..
Gee, guess I was wrong huh, I mean with the title of the thread being "APS or JWT" and all..I guess I should have assumed you ment the "OTHER" XYZ company Rob..
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Go ahead and asume all you want.
I will stop Assuming when you stop flagrantly posting information that is 100% incorrect and unsubstanciated on your part..I like the fact that your happy with your ABC turbo kit, but dont flame the XYZ for customer service, when the leading ABC dealer left their customers out to dry for over 2 months...Nothing against Vinny, he had no control over what And and Gary did...

Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
As far as PM not servicing there customers e-mail PM on that.
Could care less...Ill save the bandwidth

Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
Vinny has set up his new shop is and willing to service PM customers.
Im glad to see Vinny back in the game.I was hoping we didnt loose him. Im sure he will take care of all of Andy and Gary's former customers..
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The Rubios pulled out and left my friends out to dry...
Thats funny....Were still here..And were still servicing APS kits and customers PROBLEM FREE...Guess they got to big for their own good. When world records come before your customers, failure is inevitible I guess..
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Vinny's new shop...

Vinny Ten Racing
110 Field Street
West Babylon, NY 11704

(631) 414-7590
Cool, Perhaps vinny will become a sponsor on here again. would be nice to have him back on the boards.

PS, My friends call me JULES , you can call me JULIAN
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Julie

I know you love blowing people up, you always have, I guess you always will.

I ment what I said that's it... You can try to twist it the way you want.

Whatever...
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
Julie

I know you love blowing people up, you always have, I guess you always will.

I ment what I said that's it... You can try to twist it the way you want.

Whatever...
Lol..Come up for some air once and a while will you...
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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JWT is a quality kit. Call up Sharif and he can help you out.

APS is okay, but make sure you have a place that is a Certified to deal with APS, as their customer service is teh lame compared to other companies out there. There have been a few horror stories with people trying to get service from APS.

Another kit to look into if going for big power is the SFR.

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Sharif deals both kits from what I understand. I'm sure he can give you the pros and cons of both kits. But I'd make sure that you talk to several shops before you make a final decision. Sometimes the best information is that which we find ourselves. Not trying to be a d!ck, just letting you know that everyone's got an opinion. And opinions are worth jack **** to me without something substantial to back it up... Myself included
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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I dont know about other people's remarks being off base about APS, but my bashing is well deserved.
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