Update on the Brian Crower Stroker kit.
06-04-2007, 07:37 AM
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IMHO, I would not use a stroker kit that deletes the oil squirters. They do serve a very important purpose. Now, if you are running a 8sec drag car for one pass, that would be a different story...but for a street/road course car, I would prefer keeping the squirters.
So that points us to GTM.
They kits are proven, and tested, and this new drop-in parts kits looks very promising as well.
So that points us to GTM.
They kits are proven, and tested, and this new drop-in parts kits looks very promising as well.
06-04-2007, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
IMHO, I would not use a stroker kit that deletes the oil squirters. They do serve a very important purpose. Now, if you are running a 8sec drag car for one pass, that would be a different story...but for a street/road course car, I would prefer keeping the squirters.
So that points us to GTM. They kits are proven, and tested, and this new drop-in parts kits looks very promising as well.
So that points us to GTM.
They kits are proven, and tested, and this new drop-in parts kits looks very promising as well.i agree... but so the BC kit is also proven, unless you have another definition for proven...there are a few cars runing BC stroker already with quit a few miles....
but as Julian pointed it just sucks that the instructions werent clear prior to installation for a firt time bc stroker installer, but other than that its fine as Injected has shown and in fact it resulted in the creation of better griddle unit
06-04-2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hal@IP
It is also a strength/rigidity issue. In the 1000+ range the VQ is rumored to have some problems with flexing and letting the crank wander a bit - which leads to a quick death for bearings. We haven't run into that yet, but felt like that is a pretty critical piece to be grinding away if the stock unit already may flex a little.
+1 gridles are a big thing... its another strength of the 2jz so i dont think this is a BS part..the pricing could always be slightly better though
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06-04-2007, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
also, there are many cars that dont have oil squirters, the are actually and added bonus...
which you could pick up that added bonus else where and have no issues...
06-04-2007, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
IMHO, I would not use a stroker kit that deletes the oil squirters. They do serve a very important purpose. Now, if you are running a 8sec drag car for one pass, that would be a different story...but for a street/road course car, I would prefer keeping the squirters.
So that points us to GTM. They kits are proven, and tested, and this new drop-in parts kits looks very promising as well.
So that points us to GTM.
They kits are proven, and tested, and this new drop-in parts kits looks very promising as well.Granted they are nice to have, however the crank will throw up enough oil to keep the proper lubricity on the bottom portion of the pistons.
It just sucks to be us to have to go backwards and do someone elses R&D for them...Since there was little public information available for this stroker kit at the time we purchased it..
06-04-2007, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
+1 griddles are a big thing... its another strength of the 2jz so i dont think this is a BS part..the pricing could always be slightly better though
LOL....
06-04-2007, 09:34 AM
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Well how many other OEM cars actually have oil squirters in the first place, and what are their longevity expectations? Im guessing your just speculating at this point, as I assume you have not assembled a motor without oil squirters and ran into a longevity problem thus far.
Granted they are nice to have, however the crank will throw up enough oil to keep the proper lubricity on the bottom portion of the pistons.
It just sucks to be us to have to go backwards and do someone elses R&D for them...Since there was little public information available for this stroker kit at the time we purchased it..
Granted they are nice to have, however the crank will throw up enough oil to keep the proper lubricity on the bottom portion of the pistons.
It just sucks to be us to have to go backwards and do someone elses R&D for them...Since there was little public information available for this stroker kit at the time we purchased it..
I guess my point, is that if you have two comparably priced stroker kits, one of them that needed machining and modifcations to make it work, and another kit that retains the squirters and has been proven/tested in a few 700-800whp cars...I would pick the latter.
06-04-2007, 09:44 AM
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I believe GTM's is roughly $850 more expensive than the BC.
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You are right, it is just my humble opinion..for what its worth. Very few engines use oil squirters, but most of the high powered engines that people are building...do. 4G63's, VQ35's..etc..etc.
I guess my point, is that if you have two comparably priced stroker kits, one of them that needed machining and modifcations to make it work, and another kit that retains the squirters and has been proven/tested in a few 700-800whp cars...I would pick the latter.
I guess my point, is that if you have two comparably priced stroker kits, one of them that needed machining and modifcations to make it work, and another kit that retains the squirters and has been proven/tested in a few 700-800whp cars...I would pick the latter.
06-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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Alot of engine builders consider oil squirters as internal oil leakers. LOL. Remove those squierters you get more pressure at the rods and mains where you need it.
06-04-2007, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You are right, it is just my humble opinion..for what its worth. Very few engines use oil squirters, but most of the high powered engines that people are building...do. 4G63's, VQ35's..etc..etc.
I guess my point, is that if you have two comparably priced stroker kits, one of them that needed machining and modifcations to make it work, and another kit that retains the squirters and has been proven/tested in a few 700-800whp cars...I would pick the latter.
I guess my point, is that if you have two comparably priced stroker kits, one of them that needed machining and modifcations to make it work, and another kit that retains the squirters and has been proven/tested in a few 700-800whp cars...I would pick the latter.
06-04-2007, 10:25 AM
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The retail price or GTM HIGH REV STROKER KIT as follow
PART # GTM-8002-W-HR $4960.03 PARTS ONLY (PISTON ,RODS,CRANK)
PART # GTM-VQ35DE-CG000-3HR $6576.78 (COMPLETE SHORT BLOCK)
Side notes
-kits are balanced(bc kit will require balancing @add cost)
-high speed oiling system crankshaft
-crank shaft is about 5 pound lighter than stock
-no clearance issues
-oil squirters stays
with all the above this is the kit to get plane and simple .
Sam
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PART # GTM-8002-W-HR $4960.03 PARTS ONLY (PISTON ,RODS,CRANK)
PART # GTM-VQ35DE-CG000-3HR $6576.78 (COMPLETE SHORT BLOCK)
Side notes
-kits are balanced(bc kit will require balancing @add cost)
-high speed oiling system crankshaft
-crank shaft is about 5 pound lighter than stock
-no clearance issues
-oil squirters stays
with all the above this is the kit to get plane and simple .
Sam
GT MOTORSPORTS
Last edited by Sam@GTM; 06-04-2007 at 10:38 AM.
06-04-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
Alot of engine builders consider oil squirters as internal oil leakers. LOL. Remove those squierters you get more pressure at the rods and mains where you need it.
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Last edited by Sam@GTM; 06-04-2007 at 11:01 AM.
06-04-2007, 11:31 AM
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Sam,
The last stroker we received from BC was already balanced.
The last stroker we received from BC was already balanced.
Originally Posted by Sam@GTM
Side notes
-kits are balanced(bc kit will require balancing @add cost)
-high speed oiling system crankshaft
-crank shaft is about 5 pound lighter than stock
-no clearance issues
-oil squirters stays
with all the above this is the kit to get plane and simple .
Sam
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-kits are balanced(bc kit will require balancing @add cost)
-high speed oiling system crankshaft
-crank shaft is about 5 pound lighter than stock
-no clearance issues
-oil squirters stays
with all the above this is the kit to get plane and simple .
Sam
GT MOTORSPORTS
06-04-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam@GTM
The retail price or GTM HIGH REV STROKER KIT as follow
PART # GTM-8002-W-HR $4960.03 PARTS ONLY (PISTON ,RODS,CRANK)
PART # GTM-VQ35DE-CG000-3HR $6576.78 (COMPLETE SHORT BLOCK)
Side notes
-kits are balanced(bc kit will require balancing @add cost)
-high speed oiling system crankshaft
-crank shaft is about 5 pound lighter than stock
-no clearance issues
-oil squirters stays
with all the above this is the kit to get plane and simple .
Sam
GT MOTORSPORTS
PART # GTM-8002-W-HR $4960.03 PARTS ONLY (PISTON ,RODS,CRANK)
PART # GTM-VQ35DE-CG000-3HR $6576.78 (COMPLETE SHORT BLOCK)
Side notes
-kits are balanced(bc kit will require balancing @add cost)
-high speed oiling system crankshaft
-crank shaft is about 5 pound lighter than stock
-no clearance issues
-oil squirters stays
with all the above this is the kit to get plane and simple .
Sam
GT MOTORSPORTS
this is a 3.8l right?
that is a great deal!