Engine is Toast !!!! Feel my Pain!!
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Mia, you bring up some good points. One thing to remember, is that AJ's car is tuned on a dyno jet. The 2500lb inertia drum results in less taper towards redline (due to the heavy drum free spinning at high speeds), which gives the appearance of powering being made further in the power band.
On our Dyno Dynamics, a constant and linear load is applied to the rollers, so you have a much more precise indication of what is actually happening at higher RPM, once the rollers are spinning at 120mph or more.
And can someone link me to AJ's dyno chart? IIRC, it was really choppy, and all over the place.
On our Dyno Dynamics, a constant and linear load is applied to the rollers, so you have a much more precise indication of what is actually happening at higher RPM, once the rollers are spinning at 120mph or more.
And can someone link me to AJ's dyno chart? IIRC, it was really choppy, and all over the place.
That was a bonehead move for sure. I would like to see an overlay of the two dynos as well for comparison. Quite honestly I'm shocked a dyno type would cause such a discrepency in flow rate but I guess its possible if one car is loaded more then the other causing increased exhaust flow and therefore ramping up the backpressure greatly. This I would guess is a valid explanation of what could have occured. The true test to settle this would be to measure the backpressure between both cars. Since this is not likely to happen I'll have to assume the dyno variable is the delta creating this anamoly.
Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
the bickering needs to stop already. get back to the facts and issue at hand. who is going to help jet get back on the road?
i have to agree with you JET needs to be taken care of instead of all the shops fighting
Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
i just want to appologize to sharif, sorry for saying anything to discredit you. i am a good honest person and get caught up in this drama sometimes. its all just stupid. sometimes you have to back up and take a look at the whole picture.
we are pretty much the hardcore racing metal militia of the Z community, its got to be the fastest, loudest, lowest thing around, we let our arrogance overtake our professionalism sometimes, nothing good comes from name calling and so forth...
of course we are rival shops, we will just let the cars performance tell from here...
we are pretty much the hardcore racing metal militia of the Z community, its got to be the fastest, loudest, lowest thing around, we let our arrogance overtake our professionalism sometimes, nothing good comes from name calling and so forth...
of course we are rival shops, we will just let the cars performance tell from here...
I hate to be like Rodney King. But can we all just get along. This community is just way too small to be getting in pissing contest everyday. Props to you Jermey for apologizing. I wish that everyone looked at the big picture more often. Trust me I understand what it feels like to get attacked and its hard for me not to take it personal.
Jet I feel for you in this situation. Even though I (Turbonetics) have verbally attacked by you numerous times here on the boards. I still wish you the best. In a perfect world I would hope that you put a end to your verbal attacks and publically acknowledge that there we other issues with your setup that caused your turbos to fail.
With that said good luck and let me know if you need help with anything.
Reggie Wynn
Sales Manager
Turbonetics Inc.
Jeremy-I saw a dyno of AJ's car @ 11psi IIRC. I didnt know you had tuned it to 14psi, can you post a chart of that? Im not looking to pick it apart I just want to see the power/curve on your dyno. AJ's car is nasty fast down the 1/4...
we have it tuned at 11 psi in 4th gear, the car makes 12 to 13 ave and 14 on occasion in 5th, i told him that it was not safe to floor it in 5th gear and not to do it. he pretty much said, "**** off , i will do what i want" as he passes me sideways going 100+
we hit 490 and 480 ft pounds of tq at 15 psi on 93 octane on the stock motor on one run, it knocked pretty hard since we were only aiming for 13 and the manual boost controller was really really really touchy,
we are going to tune it on C16 at 15 psi and make 500 + here this week on the stock motor. TN kits will make power, watch out for Craigs car...
just have to know a few little secrets that we cant tell ya about..
we havent gone back to the track since we upped it past 11 psi, he ran the 11.55 at 10.5 psi in 5th gear, we will head back as soon as we get some time, way way too many cars at the shop right now... crazyness
we hit 490 and 480 ft pounds of tq at 15 psi on 93 octane on the stock motor on one run, it knocked pretty hard since we were only aiming for 13 and the manual boost controller was really really really touchy,
we are going to tune it on C16 at 15 psi and make 500 + here this week on the stock motor. TN kits will make power, watch out for Craigs car...
just have to know a few little secrets that we cant tell ya about..
we havent gone back to the track since we upped it past 11 psi, he ran the 11.55 at 10.5 psi in 5th gear, we will head back as soon as we get some time, way way too many cars at the shop right now... crazyness
Last edited by Audible Mayhem; Jun 6, 2007 at 08:32 AM.
Jet, I will give you a call later today. At this point, i have no idea how your car consumed 5qts of oil in 300miles, all while not smoking, or running fine.
When customers do big projects with us, there is an unspoken rule of helping them out in some way, even if we are not at fault. I feel very bad about your situation, and would like to offer you a rebuild of your engine as needed. If this is something you are interested, we can talk about the details. But we would be happy to cover all the machining/assembly costs that we'll do in house, and ship it back to you, ready to drop back in. If the block or heads are toast, we'll get you new ones at no charge.
In the end, the most important thing is getting you back on the road quickly.
Your have been a longtime customer of mine, since back in the CP Racing days, and since Jeremy opened his shop in FL, you have gone to him. Rightfully so, as his shop is closer to you. But I dont want you to think I am unwilling to help you out...even though you didnt call me first.
When customers do big projects with us, there is an unspoken rule of helping them out in some way, even if we are not at fault. I feel very bad about your situation, and would like to offer you a rebuild of your engine as needed. If this is something you are interested, we can talk about the details. But we would be happy to cover all the machining/assembly costs that we'll do in house, and ship it back to you, ready to drop back in. If the block or heads are toast, we'll get you new ones at no charge.
In the end, the most important thing is getting you back on the road quickly.
Your have been a longtime customer of mine, since back in the CP Racing days, and since Jeremy opened his shop in FL, you have gone to him. Rightfully so, as his shop is closer to you. But I dont want you to think I am unwilling to help you out...even though you didnt call me first.
That's an example of what's way above and beyond the typical customer service that would be in any industry and he should be applauded.
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Jet, I will give you a call later today. At this point, i have no idea how your car consumed 5qts of oil in 300miles, all while not smoking, or running fine.
When customers do big projects with us, there is an unspoken rule of helping them out in some way, even if we are not at fault. I feel very bad about your situation, and would like to offer you a rebuild of your engine as needed. If this is something you are interested, we can talk about the details. But we would be happy to cover all the machining/assembly costs that we'll do in house, and ship it back to you, ready to drop back in. If the block or heads are toast, we'll get you new ones at no charge.
In the end, the most important thing is getting you back on the road quickly.
Your have been a longtime customer of mine, since back in the CP Racing days, and since Jeremy opened his shop in FL, you have gone to him. Rightfully so, as his shop is closer to you. But I dont want you to think I am unwilling to help you out...even though you didnt call me first.
When customers do big projects with us, there is an unspoken rule of helping them out in some way, even if we are not at fault. I feel very bad about your situation, and would like to offer you a rebuild of your engine as needed. If this is something you are interested, we can talk about the details. But we would be happy to cover all the machining/assembly costs that we'll do in house, and ship it back to you, ready to drop back in. If the block or heads are toast, we'll get you new ones at no charge.
In the end, the most important thing is getting you back on the road quickly.
Your have been a longtime customer of mine, since back in the CP Racing days, and since Jeremy opened his shop in FL, you have gone to him. Rightfully so, as his shop is closer to you. But I dont want you to think I am unwilling to help you out...even though you didnt call me first.
I feel you pain Jet, i had so many issues going FI.......Sharif saved my car. its frustrating for sure but it sounds like you have some good shops working on the solution for you.