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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
Who really cares about all that stuff.....FI is pretty unique as it is on the Z regardless of what kit it is.
Agreed, I'll end up going with twins most likely if this kit is comparable in price.

I love the idea, love the sound, I'd be very satisfied with the power, but I think it's even cooler to say you got a twin turbo'd V6 than talkin about the turbo in the back when in reality Camaro's and Corvettes are already runnin around with TWIN TURBOS IN THE BACK.

I'm not hating on CIN, I'm hatin on STS for puttin a single turbo in the twin turbo market. Two's better than one
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cube
I'm not hating on CIN, I'm hatin on STS for puttin a single turbo in the twin turbo market. Two's better than one
Spoken like a true FI newb....
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Spoken like a true FI newb....
Would you rather have one big laggy turbo in the back with cold exhaust or two efficient turbo's? (turbo efficiency depends on exhaust temps... right?)

(notice I said big, and notice the MRC Z where it's hittin its max boost at like 4 grand)
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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https://my350z.com/forum/attachment....3&d=1181680136

This is what I was talkin about...
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Spoken like a true FI newb....



i know what a retard
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cube
Would you rather have one big laggy turbo in the back with cold exhaust or two efficient turbo's? (turbo efficiency depends on exhaust temps... right?)

(notice I said big, and notice the MRC Z where it's hittin its max boost at like 4 grand)

go do some research man..... jsut check what the single laggy trubos you speak off did for the supra for example....
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII

go do some research man..... jsut check what the single laggy trubos you speak off did for the supra for example....
...I was talkin about this example, the STS single in question, I did some research, look at the link... I know it's all about sizing.

Again, the single laggy TURBO I'm speaking of is on the 6MT 350Z that gave that dyno posted above. How you gonna criticize me on that based on what I was referring to? Any of the TT kits we have available have more potential than this kit is all I'm saying, since that's what we're talking about, this kit being priced up there near the TT kits.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cube
...I was talkin about this example, the STS single in question, I did some research, look at the link... I know it's all about sizing.

Again, the single laggy TURBO I'm speaking of is on the 6MT 350Z that gave that dyno posted above. How you gonna criticize me on that based on what I was referring to? Any of the TT kits we have available have more potential than this kit is all I'm saying, since that's what we're talking about, this kit being priced up there near the TT kits.
don't waste your time arguing with the ST God's who know their dyno curve of their uncompleted ST Kits and how they are going to be better than all the TT Kits on the market
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
don't waste your time arguing with the ST God's who know their dyno curve of their uncompleted ST Kits and how they are going to be better than all the TT Kits on the market



dude, i like twin turbos..i just dont like your attitude that if its not TT its not worth it cuase its not the case(maybe with current kits out there but not generally speaking)
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Originally Posted by Cube
...I was talkin about this example, the STS single in question, I

be more specific next time
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
be more specific next time
Be less assuming next time
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cube
Be less assuming next time
u referred to the twin turbo market as if thats is what FI is all about only
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII



dude, i like twin turbos..i just dont like your attitude that if its not TT its not worth it cuase its not the case(maybe with current kits out there but not generally speaking)
ironically i saw Craig post that since you are getting your new setup you have become more vocal.. and you have developed this ST God persona.. and all of a sudden you know everything about turbo's and the power they produce..

if i were you.. i would fall back until my kit is done and dyno'd.. unfortunately you are building hype you have no idea if you will be able to backup.

i have stopped telling people to get TT's long time ago.. i don't even argue which one is better anymore, whats the point?
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
u referred to the twin turbo market as if thats is what FI is all about only
Ummm no... have you read the rest of this thread??? Or are you JUST jumping in now? This whole debate has been about the pricing of the STS Turbo being ball-parked near the Greddy TT kit and how some would rather go for the TT kit instead, but yet others would still go for the STS since it has a much easier install. GTFO if you're not talkin about this topic

I still would rather pay that lil bit more and go for twins that have more potential rather than the unique factor and ease of install... until they drop their price after realizing they shouldn't be competing with twins
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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what exactly do you mean when you say TT's have more potential?!?!?!

The rx7, supra's, etc....they all go single turbo....you dont see evo's,sti's, or srt-4's putting twin set-ups in there car....why is that?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub zero
what exactly do you mean when you say TT's have more potential?!?!?!

The rx7, supra's, etc....they all go single turbo....you dont see evo's,sti's, or srt-4's putting twin set-ups in there car....why is that?
Argghhhh here we go again... you tellin me the Greddy TT has LESS potential than the STS rear mount single turbo?

My apologies for not stating Greddy Twins vs. STS single everytime I mention comparisons. For future reference, I will again say that I'm comparing the STS with Greddy because of pricing.

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub zero
what exactly do you mean when you say TT's have more potential?!?!?!

The rx7, supra's, etc....they all go single turbo....you dont see evo's,sti's, or srt-4's putting twin set-ups in there car....why is that?
they are all Inline Engines.. with the exception of the rx7 ..

its easier to run a ST on an inline setup than a V6 .. on a V Engine configuration you have manifolds on each side.. so its easy to have a turbo on each manifold.. on a I-4 / I-6 the manifolds are all in the same line.. so its easier to feed 1 turbo..

naturally 2 turbo's will make more power than 1 turbo .. its not rocket science.. obviously 1 Big turbo will make more power than 2 small turbo's .. but Greddy and APS turbo's arn't small
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but your not paying just a "lil" more for the greddy system installed...its like a $1,000 difference.....thats money customers can use for a upgraded clutch and supporting mods like wideband and guages

Cube...i know what you are sayng but you still havent answered my question. What makes you think that a twin turbo set-up is better for the VQ motor? Im not bashing on you...but since you say it has more potential i guess i can ask you for the answer since you seem to know more than i do. Im just here to learn.
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Originally Posted by doug
they are all Inline Engines.. with the exception of the rx7 ..

its easier to run a ST on an inline setup than a V6 .. on a V Engine configuration you have manifolds on each side.. so its easy to have a turbo on each manifold.. on a I-4 / I-6 the manifolds are all in the same line.. so its easier to feed 1 turbo..

naturally 2 turbo's will make more power than 1 turbo .. its not rocket science.. obviously 1 Big turbo will make more power than 2 small turbo's .. but Greddy and APS turbo's arn't small
Thats exactly what i was looking for....thank you doug
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Originally Posted by doug
ironically i saw Craig post that since you are getting your new setup you have become more vocal.. and you have developed this ST God persona.. and all of a sudden you know everything about turbo's and the power they produce..

if i were you.. i would fall back until my kit is done and dyno'd.. unfortunately you are building hype you have no idea if you will be able to backup.

i have stopped telling people to get TT's long time ago.. i don't even argue which one is better anymore, whats the point?

i think i have about the same post/day ratio as before =]
i honestly dont think i know everything....
i just make a point for those that say twins only...i mean yah twins are awsome but its not all there is on the Fi world, and its not the only solution out there..

about which one is better...most 350z FI kits have had success so it usually comes down to peoples budget in the end =]
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