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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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I want to go greddy twins before the end of the year. But i find myself on the edge between doing an engine build now and have the kit put on with the motor out. Or just doing the kit getting not have the worry about breaking the engine in etc. etc. So my question is to the shops out there how much labor would be saved doing the whole shabang at once?

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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If you cant wait and you want to buy something now I would get the built motor first. If I could do it all over again I would build the motor first. then get the kit later. but oh well you live and learn. Im on the jwt tt kit so its a mild set up pretty safe.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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hmmm... so your saying build the motor first if i do it in stages? what kind of power would you think i would make with a 3.8 lt. vq with 8.5 or 9.0 to 1 compression pistions? this is good food for thought but i think the cost of tuning the built engine with a standalone ems than doing it all over again would perhaps be more expensive...idk. i was more interested in how much labor (ballpark) i would be saving if i did it all at once verses engine build than turbo kit, or vise versa. By the way this forum kicks major *** and i have learned alot about more about engines and turbos well alot of **** thanks to all
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Most of us drop the engine to install twins, so you will save quite a bit of money considering you will already have the engine out of the car for the turbo install.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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If possible it would be wise to do it all at the same time to save a good amount of labor. If not there is nothing wrong with building now and boosting later, or vice versa

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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well thanks for all of these quick replies. If quite a bit of money would be a grand or more than I am all for doing it all at once. I'm trying to find a winter car right now, so back to more researching and running cocaine across the border in my calves to do all this work at once.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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On this topic. How do you guys think the cost stacks up between yanking your motor and building it vs just buying a built motor from say Imports Parts Pro and slapping it in?
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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you don't need no stinking winter car
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Dropping the engine isnt the time consuming part...installing the kit, and then reinstalling everything is. So although there is some labor to be saved in doing it at once, its not an enormous amount.

If you have the funds, I would do everything at once, but running the stock block at mild boost is relatively safe. Then saveup and build the engine later when you desire more power.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Dropping the engine isnt the time consuming part...installing the kit, and then reinstalling everything is. So although there is some labor to be saved in doing it at once, its not an enormous amount.

If you have the funds, I would do everything at once, but running the stock block at mild boost is relatively safe. Then saveup and build the engine later when you desire more power.
Sharif.. Any opinions on my question above from a cost perspective?
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Sharif.. Any opinions on my question above from a cost perspective?
I chuckled a bit when I read your post. Properly installing a shortblock, or a TT kit, is definately a lot more than yanking and slapping things together. The costs will vary based on what you would like done.

Either way, you will not "save" a significant amount of money by doing both the TT install and the engine build simultaneously, IMHO.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I chuckled a bit when I read your post. Properly installing a shortblock, or a TT kit, is definately a lot more than yanking and slapping things together. The costs will vary based on what you would like done.

Either way, you will not "save" a significant amount of money by doing both the TT install and the engine build simultaneously, IMHO.
haha yes I know.. I think your missing my questions which is usually my fault..

Buying a Long Block and swapping engine + all the turbo/fuel work
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Yanking existing block and decking, honing, replacing pistons,rods etc.. + all the other stuff..

Hope thats more clear.. Just curious from a cost perspective..
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyZiLLa
haha yes I know.. I think your missing my questions which is usually my fault..

Buying a Long Block and swapping engine + all the turbo/fuel work
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Yanking existing block and decking, honing, replacing pistons,rods etc.. + all the other stuff..

Hope thats more clear.. Just curious from a cost perspective..
Cost would probably be very comparable. The longblock price includes the labor for assembleing the longblock and timing everything up. So either you would pay that to your shop, or the company that builds your engine. But either way, it would be in the mix. A longblock's main benefit is convenience, as there is little downtime. You recieve your new longblock, and you swap.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Cost would probably be very comparable. The longblock price includes the labor for assembleing the longblock and timing everything up. So either you would pay that to your shop, or the company that builds your engine. But either way, it would be in the mix. A longblock's main benefit is convenience, as there is little downtime. You recieve your new longblock, and you swap.
Yea makes sense.. I figured they'd be pretty close, but seeing as how i havent done either was just curious..
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