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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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So im at a pretty big show in NJ, and i see a couple crazy turbocharged cars and im looking under the hood and see the giant turbo with no intake on it and just an exposed turbo??? Can someone realistically tell me the difference because this guy made it sound like it made a giant difference on his dyno lol. maybe it felt like it to him because the turbo spooled louder??? haha

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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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So im at a pretty big show in NJ, and i see a couple crazy turbocharged cars and im looking under the hood and see the giant turbo with no intake on it and just an exposed turbo??? Can someone realistically tell me the difference because this guy made it sound like it made a giant difference on his dyno lol. maybe it felt like it to him because the turbo spooled louder??? haha

thanks guys, Ryan
It can help. Gains will vary depedning on setup.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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no filter even? how does one prevent debris from getting sucked in?
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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doesnt really offer more gains, just for looks, that is if you have a pretty good air filter that flows good, but i prefer to have something covering my compressor wheel, they dont like it when things are sucked in there. ive seen an air filter sucked into a turbo, as well as a t-shirt, that was funny as hell. sitting there with the car cranked with no filter, the owner leaned over the motor to grab something, and woosh, his shirt got sucked into the turbo. plus you cant do it if youre running a MAF sensor, you gotta be running a MAP sensor to do that.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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I bet if you did some dyno pulls with the greddy tt kit on a 350z without the filters and piping you would show some gain or build boost faster. The piping is cut way down from compressor inlet size.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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yeah he had no filter or anything, just rolld up on the dyno and all i could remember was the turbo spool sound screaming!! it sounded amazing, but i would worry what else he may suck in the future... he said drives around like that all the time and has no issues
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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I bet if you did some dyno pulls with the greddy tt kit on a 350z without the filters and piping you would show some gain or build boost faster. The piping is cut way down from compressor inlet size.

or better...remove teh filters and replace it with dual turbonators!!
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tig488
doesnt really offer more gains, just for looks, that is if you have a pretty good air filter that flows good, but i prefer to have something covering my compressor wheel, they dont like it when things are sucked in there. ive seen an air filter sucked into a turbo, as well as a t-shirt, that was funny as hell. sitting there with the car cranked with no filter, the owner leaned over the motor to grab something, and woosh, his shirt got sucked into the turbo. plus you cant do it if youre running a MAF sensor, you gotta be running a MAP sensor to do that.
Depends on where the MAF is located on the APS and Greddy TT 350Z kits you could run without intakes since the MAF is after the IC
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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most guys around here run w/o the filter element, but use a metal screen placed over the inlet to keep debris out.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
Depends on where the MAF is located on the APS and Greddy TT 350Z kits you could run without intakes since the MAF is after the IC
true, youre right, ive been away from the VQ for a little while now, used to the KA already. forgot it used a blow thru vs a pull thru MAF.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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I think phunk was once working on some 3" inlet pipes for the greddy twins.

of course, you had to lose your A/C and relocation the power steering to do it though.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan350zpower
yeah he had no filter or anything, just rolld up on the dyno and all i could remember was the turbo spool sound screaming!! it sounded amazing, but i would worry what else he may suck in the future... he said drives around like that all the time and has no issues
Oh, he will lol
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chris'smax
most guys around here run w/o the filter element, but use a metal screen placed over the inlet to keep debris out.
Myself and others have found increased horsepower by replacing a metal screen with a filter.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Hal@IP
Myself and others have found increased horsepower by replacing a metal screen with a filter.
hmm i would have thought it would be the other way around.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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The only time I've seen people really run without filter effectively is on race car only setups. Although I have to admit I have always wanted to add an ASME inlet with a mesh screen and mold the inlet into the front bumper. I think its a little to aggressive for the street though and I'm guranteed to get pulled over if I do it. Here's what I mean.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
The only time I've seen people really run without filter effectively is on race car only setups. Although I have to admit I have always wanted to add an ASME inlet with a mesh screen and mold the inlet into the front bumper. I think its a little to aggressive for the street though and I'm guranteed to get pulled over if I do it. Here's what I mean.
DO it.

I like IIQuickSilverII's idea though. Dual Turbonators FTW, then you'll have twin turbonators.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Z84
DO it.

I like IIQuickSilverII's idea though. Dual Turbonators FTW, then you'll have twin turbonators.
I wouldn't get more then 3 blocks with that thing on the front bumper before I got pulled over. Some day....
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