Just because anyone can join the forum doesn't make it a public forum. It's privately owned and operated so you are correct in assuming the first amendment does not apply here.

 

Props to the mods for putting an end to all the BS on this forum.

 

What about:
1) Signatures with negative comments in regards to someone?
2) negative but honest and unbiased product reviews?
3) someone "interpreting" a comment as a shot towards them?

Im assuming this will be a case by case basis. It about time we get some peace on these boards, it was getting worse by the day..much respect to the admins.

 

I understand and appreciate what the mods are trying to do here. Some threads become unnecessarily uncivil by members making unprevoked attacks. However, there are quite a few sensitive folks on here who label legitmate questions or concerns as bashing too.

I am curious about what the mods consider "calling out" and I think this needs to be more clearly defined. I say this because I am concerned that some people may be afraid to blow the whistle on misconduct, poor quality products, or poor customer service by a vendor/sponsor/shop for fear of being banned. How can someone post their negative experiences without naming names and making an allegation? They can't, IMO. Negative feedback about products, shops, and vendors can be as valuable to the community as the positive feedback.

I support a more positive, civil and friendly F/I section. However, I don't want to see valid/legitimate complaints, concerns, and issues get suppressed just because the accused party (and their supporters) will get offended.

 

Definitely bannable depending on severity...

You definitely wouldn't get banned for that

It would be best to clear it up yourself by PMing the person who made the comment. If you are not sure, you could PM a moderator or admin. If you are 100% sure it is a shot at you then report the post.

Definitely a case-by case basis though.

 

any bashing better have some hardcore evidnece.

 

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

It is one thing to post an unbiased review and it is totally another to engage in name calling and shop bashing.

Stating facts about a negative experience will be totally acceptable, as long as the post is not written in an inflammatory tone.

It's just like Julian said... unbiased, honest reviews. Not bashing. If you don't know the difference... you will have to find out the hard way.

 

This is where the FIRST HAND knowledge part comes in. So and so down the street had this happen ain't gonna cut it. When you make these allegations you better have some evidence. Chances are the vendor is gonna have some too.

 

thats what i comes down to i agree...

other than a more extreme "no tolerance" rule...nothin has changed as far as rules


so if a "discussion" with drama potential pops up...and both parties are presenting counter FACts (maybe slightly heated but no personal attacks) then the thread is going to be alowed to continue right... a long as someone goes OT or adds to the bashing with out any facts.... Correct?

 

Hraesvelg, don't worry. You weren't the only one with that repsonse. They all got deleted. We just aren't going for funny.

 

Also a note to buzzard ... we're just trying to cut down on the OT talk in this thread that's why posts keep getting removed. Nothing personal

 

Great move, running things tight and even handed as well as consistent will quickly get people in line and used to doing things right. Good luck.

 

+1 on the OT
are you guys even going to ..in some cases at least wait to see why something that may sound ot is actually not?

also another question on this subscribe only to thread if you are not directly involved....
1st hand knowledge can be if your a friend from one of the parties involved and he told you "his" side?
does this also mean basically if something gets posted, you cannot make a single post/comment period?....no matter how simple or "well worded" in nature it is, as in nothing stupid?

last..are emoticons allowed if its in a "fun/joke" way or...if intended to post in a more subtle matter.....in many cases they help

 

How about using this little guy-------------->
is that still acceptable?

 

Great idea. I use the FI forum to do my research for when I get back on my feet and build my car...and the F.I. section has turned into an episode of 'As The Turbo Spools' instead of good info lately.

 

As far as I'm concerned, using a negative smiley icon is no different than posting a negative comment about someone.

It's not like you're going to get banned just because you used a smiley.

What really counts is the apparent INTENT of a post. And it would be wise for everyone to pay attention to whether their post looks like it has a harmless intent, a sarcastic intent, or an inflammatory intent...

If someone makes a post and it looks inflammatory to me, it's not my fault for reading it that way -- it's the responsibility of the person making the comment to edit it in such a way that it does not look inflammatory.

 

... please don't assume the moderators are going to be rediculous and ban everyone who posts a comment in a thread, just because it's not THEIR car that is being discussed...

we are reasonable people trying to cut down on bullsh1t, that's all...

this is not a **** regime, this is the friggin internet.

"Some rules can be bent, others broken" well in this case, we're tightening up our belts to include a few which cannot be broken...

 

Since this seems like a good Q and A session, does the "FI forum conduct" apply outside of the FI section?

For example, if someone were to start an antagonizing thread in another section and is related to the FI and meant to flame those in FI....what's the call on that?

I'm pretty sure this is on topic......I hope at least.

Thanks guys.

 

I would appreciate if people didn't speculate on every possible scenario...

As I said this is not a **** regime, this is the internet.

If an incident goes down in another forum and we feel it's necessary to ban someone, then someone will get banned.