Man people or should I say children, what is the issues with just abiding by the rules, this "I am taking my ball home so now one can play" attitude is totally childish.

This thread announcing that rules be enforced turned into the very reason that they should be.

Admins and moderators should just do it and once people get the idea that their posts are being deleted or they are being warned they will learn what is acceptable and what is not, just do it. As soon as the first post starts with an off topic or obvious attack delete it to prevent the downward spiral of the thread.

I think you will keep more people than you will lose by doing this, people will be more apt to stay and look through a forum that they find useful and not one that is messy and full of garbage threads, the people that leave, if they do, will be the ones that were creating the drama.

What needs to be done is probably to get these bits of information and create some real useful tech tips, so people can go to them rather than keep asking the same questions check this page out the 300ZX TT guys have done, it cuts down in repetitive questions http://www.twinturbo.net/ttnetfaq/z32faq.aspx it has helped me tons with my Z32

 

Agreed.

Guys, the mods aren't going to turn into ban-***** overnight. As long as you aren't an a-hole and intent on starting drama with other members, you should be fine.

 

^ is this guy the reincarnation of NG?

 

yea i really doubt any of the mods would rather be banning **** over just closing down the entire FI zone.


i dont think any could just having to baby sit grown men just to make sure they do go around trying stirring up personal opinion fights.

 

Your opinion and your entitled to it. It's NOT needed in your sig though. If someone comes on here asking questions about the STS system and you think it sucks. Fine, you have first hand knowledge of the kit and if you wish to share why you think it sucks, feel free.

 

its those grown men who stir up fights,that make your head hurt at the end of the day..

 

Closing the whole FI section for awhile was an option we were discussing in the mod section. We thought we would try this first.

 

I don't think that would fly too well with the sponsors. Several of them primarily only post/advertise in this forum.

 

+1

basically....




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its the ng syndrome...

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ok back to

 

Then hopefully they will all be a part of the solution.

 

well then we must pray this works then

 

While I aggre I can be a hot head at times, there are alot of the times I am provoked both directly and indirectly by certain other members.While on the surface their comments are harmless, I tend to read into it too much.I guess I am just as guilty then.
i am following the advice of another moderator and only going to post in the For sale thread for now.It seems to work well for alot of the other sponsors that rarely conrtibute to the discussion on this site,and only sell parts. Few of them get labeled a hot headed a$$hole like me.

 

maybe, there needs to be a subsection of the FI forum just for sponsor/vendor announcements. maybe, they should be read-only threads.

Something needs a change around here; I just hope it doesn't bring the downfall of good information / quality posters to these boards.

 

I think it will also help some people on the sidelines to post, when they see the bs going on I can see how people might be apprehensive about posting their own info, whether it be done by a vendor or DIY.

I think as time goes on and more people get into doing things themselves you will see a lot of technical info being shared by individuals which will help other DIY, as they usually will have more detail about what was done not just end results, again I use the Twinturbo.net website as a great example of resources for the Z32 community, tons of normal and complicated procedures, I have used it many times for things I have had to do on my Z32

 

I'm not going to quote every post that I'm responding to, instead I'm going to just talk about what I think are the key issues people should realize:


1. It is extremely time consuming to go into threads and delete people's posts one-by-one. Furthermore this does not work to diffuse situations that are getting out of hand.

2. No one ever said that if you get banned, that it will be a permanent ban. It will most likely be a 3-day ban unless you really deserve more.

3. Julian ... if you want to delete everything you ever posted and be a parts seller instead of contributing positively to the forum, that's your prerogative. But it's also retarded. You have contributed lots of useful information and posted so many interesting experiences that you and your customers have had. I for one would be very disappointed to see you take the tail between the legs route.

4. What is so hard for people to understand about this? We just want the same good information that comes with the F/I forum posts. We want to hear everything, whether it's a good experience, or a bad experience. No one said that has to change. We want important disclosures such as how VRT was running a shady operation. But it can be done without turning the thread into a ****-flinging screaming monkeyfest.

We basically want civilized discussion, minus the comments from the peanut gallery, speculations, accusations, etc which cause things to get blown out of proportion.

5. Just use your common sense. Yes someone was already banned for posting a bad humor joke in this thread. Is he gone forever? No.

Play it cool and stop crying foul. This forum can be truly great if people stop their b1tching and stay civilized toward one another.


6. If this thread is SCARING anyone into NOT posting their opinion, you need to come out of your shell. No one is getting banned here for their opinion, despite how unwanted it may be. Posting jokes and bullsh1t to look cute or funny, however is not helping anyone. Again... use your common sense. Think about how your posts look to other people. These things matter.

 

+1!

 

I would like to think that, for the most part, people that have anything to lose are very catious about the things they post. These people appear to be the ones that make sure they have some facts that are verifiable to show truth to some extent or another. Generally, truth is an absolute defense to defamation.


Very well said. +100

+100 again. Truly a sad affair since MRC, Forged, GTM, and wide variety of other shops/sponsors and knowledgeable individuals on here have brought the 350Z/G35 FI community so far in such a small period of time. Looks like we may be on a downward progression.

 

It's actually this kind of speculation from you and XKR that brings negative energy into this forum.

Why do you feel the need to say something like this?

If this is the end of an era, it's not the end of the positive results that have made the VQ one of the foremost project engines of the 21st century. It's just the end of the bullsh1t. The good stuff can all continue, if people don't truly believe the sky is falling.

Great example of POSITIVE thinking, thanks for your input Quadcam

 

I am very pleased to hear this.

 

I would not see this as a problem what so ever.............we def need to stop the bs that seems to happen in every fi thread.I for one got reamed cause i had the stillen s/c when it was one of the very first fi,ed kits out there,and everyone bashed me or the kit.Well quess what i could have cared less what everyone was saying cause they had more choices know then i did back in the early vq days.So i think this could be a good thing to happen to the fi forum.I have allways tried to give a positve reply to any ?,s i have recieved about the stillen s/c since i have had one for so long and will continue too.