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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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I deploy to Afganistan in January, When i return i am definately gonna buy the Stillen Stage 3 Supercharger for my 06(rev-up) Z. Has anyone had any experience with this kit at all??? what else would you recommend? Eventually I'm gonna get a clutch and flywheel upgrade and some cams. Thanks in advance for your info...
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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is it just me, or does having a rev up with cams completely contradict the idea of having a stillen SC?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo350Z_00
I deploy to Afganistan in January, When i return i am definately gonna buy the Stillen Stage 3 Supercharger for my 06(rev-up) Z. Has anyone had any experience with this kit at all??? what else would you recommend? Eventually I'm gonna get a clutch and flywheel upgrade and some cams. Thanks in advance for your info...
The first question is why this kit as i had it for 4 years but i have the greddy twin turbos set up now.Imho it is def not worth the money unless you do a lot of autox driving,that is were the low rpm torque helps alot but the top end sucks.I f you have anymore ?,s just pm me.I had the kit as long or longer then 99% of the people on this forum.....................until the last 6 months.
The only reason i ever bought this kit was back in mid 2003 it was the only (safe) kit out.The ati blew motors and so did the greddy twins......all because of the lack of timing control but with todays tuners and all the other kits out there i would (cause of the price) go looking elsewhere.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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i heard that the cams dont do much if you got the SC...thanks for the info...I just need osmething that is low maintenance and something that i can install myself.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Vortech is really not that big of a deal for installation.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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the STS, TN, and vortech are all going to be low maintenance and give you more power than the stillen

of those 3, I'd recomend the STS or vortech over the TN kit, but probably vote for the STS overall for you

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the vortech and STS are centrifugal correct????
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo350Z_00
the vortech and STS are centrifugal correct????
StS is the Squires Rear/Remote Mount Turbo.
Vortech is, as well as ATI Procharger.
Stillen, is Twin Screw.

Edited for my stupidity.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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i know that the Stillen is a twin screw.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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the ATI is pretty good but will have a little more maintenance just because you gotta change the oil two times vs once.

Honestly IMO if you want a centrifugal, I'd go vortech and skip the ATI. Not that the ATI isn't a good kit, just that there's more reasons to go with the vortech over the ATI. Not to mention it costs less than the ATI and is more "complete"

the STS will give you probably a better bang for your buck compared to most kits - at least if you plan to stay around 400whp or under. Most people think it'll run out of breath after that
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Originally Posted by Nismo350Z_00
i know that the Stillen is a twin screw.
Err, I screwed that up, pun intended.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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lol, how is the vortech??? how hard to install??? power????
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Originally Posted by Nismo350Z_00
lol, how is the vortech??? how hard to install??? power????
Pretty easy install. Just a little time consuming. "Muzzy" did his own install, and I've done a reinstall. Just removed one yesterday from "Jet Mechs'. Powerwise, more than a Stillen.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Even with a rev-up motor??? i saw on stillens website that i can expect 101 WHP with stage 3
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the rev-up is more suited for the vortech compared to the stillen.

they're completely opposite though.

the stillen gives you everything it has at extreme low rpms and is good up to around 5000 rpms then its effectiveness starts tapering off.
The vortech is the opposite, giving you a little more power at low rpms, a decent midrange, and then a lot of power in the higher revs.

It's going to come down to personal preference and how you like to drive. No one has ever seen a stillen Z go above 350whp. Most people that do stage 4 stillens end up with around 330-335 whp and around 300-305 tq.

the turbo kits are different too and won't improve the extreme low rpm power really at all, then give you TONS of midrange power, and then decent high rpm power

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what can you do to the Vortech to make it a beast???? are there like different belts u can get or something to turn up the boost??? Piggy back ECU??? boost controller???
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Why do people ask the same stupid **** OVER and OVER and OVER..there is sticky in the FI forum concerning the Vortech questions your asking. Also, everyone knows the Stillen sucks. /thread
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3.12 pulley, Belt, and UTEC would be your best bet with vortech
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Just do some more research in the FI forum and come back with some specific questions.
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I went with Stillen also when it first came out for the same reason as superchargedg. Once installed, I caught the "horsepower bug" & installed a Zex kit (55 shot) for more hp.
After a while, I built the motor & went with the APS TT kit.
I'll never look back on that mistake. Lesson learned.
You can get near 400whp with the Stillen, it's just really hard.
Pretty much, the maximum potential of the SC is shown in this thread:
Stillen 8psi Upgrade Dyno #'s
That is a built motor(10.5:1),100 octane,cams,nitrous(35 shot) & 10lb pulley(only made 8lbs that day because he put headers on the day before).

IMHO, buy a TT or ST. It will leave you with plenty of options. Even re-sale value! Try selling a used Stillen SC........... PITA

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