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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
well. .lets say i buy the kit. .not requiring the ems. ..and something goes wrong to where i find out that i need one. .i wont be talking about it on the forum. .i'll fly out to wherever the F_ _ K ATI is located and i'll be having a words with whoever i need to talk to about getting me w/e it is that i need to be in the clear. .

you cannot FALSE advertise. . .then i can get into legal matters with them. .
that sounds fun

they wouldn't be false advertising
they'll get you 55-60% more power alright....they just don't guarantee that the power will last or that your engine will be 100% healthy from using their kit

their kit might be perfectly fine though - as advertised, their kits carry a warranty. And of course that doesn't include your engine

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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You always stir up trouble in your threads. Do what you want and mess up your car. Do you think calling ATI helps that much? They are trying to sell you products.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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ROFL...

Yeah, you could fly out to ATI when your engine grenades, and then fly home empty handed after they laugh at you... Or you could just save yourself the trouble and use your plane ticket money to buy a freaking UTEC.

If you dont want anyone's actual advice, then dont ask for it.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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If you turn your own wrenches, then IMO a used Turbonetics + utec + 650 injectors = cheap, easy and safe!

Parts can be had all over this site!

My car is mainly made up of used aftermarket parts!
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SpoilsofWar
ROFL...

Yeah, you could fly out to ATI when your engine grenades, and then fly home empty handed after they laugh at you... Or you could just save yourself the trouble and use your plane ticket money to buy a freaking UTEC.

If you dont want anyone's actual advice, then dont ask for it.
AMEN!
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SpoilsofWar
ROFL...

Yeah, you could fly out to ATI when your engine grenades, and then fly home empty handed after they laugh at you... Or you could just save yourself the trouble and use your plane ticket money to buy a freaking UTEC.

If you dont want anyone's actual advice, then dont ask for it.
+1
don't forget the lawyer fees and the lost time taken off to visit ATI to threaten them in person about a court case they'd win
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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they cannot sell you a product under false pretenses. .thats illegal in the USA. .and worse case i can get my unichip programmed for it. .it's capable. .
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everyone...just let him do what he thinks is right. He'll learn the hard way.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
they cannot sell you a product under false pretenses. .thats illegal in the USA. .and worse case i can get my unichip programmed for it. .it's capable. .
what's the false pretense exactly?

yeah why not just get your unichip tuned for the procharger?
That'd be a better solution than what they sell with their kit
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
everyone...just let him do what he thinks is right. He'll learn the hard way.
Agree.

Good luck OP.

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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look all i aske from the get go whats better .. . you peopel took it upon yourselves to fight with me. .just answer the ****in question. .and let it go. .im not mad over anything thats said in a forum, but apparently some of you are. .everything in life is debatable. .and since i have ?'s about things im going to ask them when needed. .I thank you all for the GReeeeeeeeat!!! support. .and opinions. .
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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the issue here isn't people trying to answer your question

it's all in the first page of this thread

at one point depsite everyone here who's been here awhile, seen a lot of things take place, read a lot of past issues when researching things for their own cars, and even though everyone cautions you, you threw their advice back in their face saying that you believe everything ATI has said (including their info in sport Z magazine - which came from ATI)

so yeah, what IS the point of this thread exactly if you've already been suckered into ATI's marketing and not going to listen to anyone else?

you've already made up your mind. What exactly did you want from people here?

There's a reason ATI has sold fewer kits than any other FI kit out there for the Z
- They usually don't satisfy the people who want to keep things simple and out of the box installed
- They don't satisfy people who stay around 350whp when they could have had a single turbo or stillen and made a lot more low rpm power
- They don't satisfy people who are looking to make a lot of power like 450+whp
- They don't really offer any upgradeable parts or blowers
- They don't have anyone on the forums anymore to represent them or who's in contact with them and offer any news, tech support, answers, or advice
- They have blown up a lot of engines, and ATI has hands-off and uncaring approach to it (engines were popping all the time back in 2003-2004 when lots of people bought the kit. I think they made some slight changes, but it was a band-aid solution)

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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all i said was what i was looking for, ati was offering. .thats it. .i simply stated that i talked to them and they answered my ?'s pretty thorough. . .i understand everything you people are telling me im not stupid. .all im saying is what they are selling to me is pretty music to my ears. .b4 i buy anything regardless of what everyone is saying i will indeed take into consideration everything that you have told me. . im not looking to beef/or start any fights with any of you. .i understand about the EMS, and other systems. BUT if it is capable that the Z can handle the PRO charger with out using an EMS i'd love to go that way. .
it's like when superblack said i have to tap into my exhaust for an A/F sensor. .when i found a way that i do not have to threw PLX. .im not saying he was wrong .but im working smarter not harder, and it saves the money to be in my pocket not anyone else's. .and the PLX LED gauge works wonder's!!!
If you guys wanna continue to lecture me be my guest i'll listen to w/e anyone says and come up with my own thoughts. .so keep the good information coming i appreciate it. .

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Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
all i said was what i was looking for, ati was offering. .thats it. .i simply stated that i talked to them and they answered my ?'s pretty thorough. . .i understand everything you people are telling me im not stupid. .all im saying is what they are selling to me is pretty music to my ears. .b4 i buy anything regardless of what everyone is saying i will indeed take into consideration everything that you have told me. . im not looking to beef/or start any fights with any of you. .i understand about the EMS, and other systems. BUT if it is capable that the Z can handle the PRO charger with out using an EMS i'd love to go that way. .
it's like when superblack said i have to tap into my exhaust for an A/F sensor. .when i found a way that i do not have to threw PLX. .im not saying he was wrong .but im working smarter not harder, and it saves the money to be in my pocket not anyone else's. .and the PLX LED gauge works wonder's!!!
If you guys wanna continue to lecture me be my guest i'll listen to w/e anyone says and come up with my own thoughts. .so keep the good information coming i appreciate it. .
ok, well that's a very different story than what your first post said:

Originally Posted by DraGonAlchemist
I've been doing some research lately and im thinking of installing either an APS single Turbo, or a Pro charger Inter cooled Charger Unit. .Any idea's of whats better than these 2, or whats the best one to get as far as reliability/power/ easy install/less breakdowns??

I've been watching some vids on dif apps and so far I like the pro charger units the best. ..but i could be wrong. .


I'm glad you found the kit you were looking for
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