I've been doing some research lately and im thinking of installing either an APS single Turbo, or a Pro charger Inter cooled Charger Unit. .Any idea's of whats better than these 2, or whats the best one to get as far as reliability/power/ easy install/less breakdowns??

I've been watching some vids on dif apps and so far I like the pro charger units the best. ..but i could be wrong. .

 

Plenty of "newer" options - look in the shop builds and product announcements sections...

 

Brace for lock...

 

in before the lock!!!

 

that sub forum only shows basically 2 cars with charger's and one guys building his own. .. .everything else is basically a TT kit. .. i did some research and i think ima get the pro charger due to it's ease of install and not needing a computer or any bigger mods with the exception of the fuel pump. .but thats an easy install as well. .
thanx for the help tho dash. .

 

There's been a lot of people who have gone through this thought process - you may want to dig up those old threads and see how things turned out...

Also many are now advocating the powerlab kit - not much real world data yet, but I would consider it. That kit is described in one of the sub-forums...

 

The turbo application is going to be much better. The turbo will have more usable power and no worrying about belts breaking/slipping and no changing pulleys to make more power. Just make sure you get the matching exhaust with the turbo kit and have it installed by a authorized dealer...
I would also recommend finding a reputable shop and have a discussion about which setup

 

-What sort of driving are you interested in? street, autox, drag, top speed runs, large road courses, drifting?
-How do you plan on using the car mostly?
-What interests you the most about how the powerband feels?
-Where do you want the most improvement in the powerband - low, middle, or high rpms
-Do you redline the car often?
-Do you want the car to be quiet or loud as far as people hearing that you're modified?
-Do you care if you can see the FI kit in the engine bay or not?
-Why do you like the procharger over the vortech?


on a side note, I don't see how it's possible to ever have any new threads in the FI section if they just get locked all the time.
I think people jumping in who don't know anything about FI should read a lot first before posting, but this guy has already narrowed it down to just 2 kits and wants the latest comparisons and data on them.

 

My Z is not a daily Driver
Never sees Rain or snow~mostly Night time driving in Clear crisp skys
I do not Red line the car frequently, only when i race~Street,track.
as far as decibel levels i don't mind loud or quiet
work i do is mainly for my enjoyment
i dont care if i see the fi kit in the engine bay
everyone i kno has a vortech, some have problems~so i was reading about the pro charger SC and i liked what i saw.
Cars mostly street
I may send it to greece where it will be used as a drift car
as far as power i would like power across the full rpm range with as less lag as possible

 

I'd probably say a turbo is going to be more what you're looking for

you've already read about the STS turbo then right? A lot of people think it's the better deal, has the best engine management of all the stock single turbo kits, and is easier to install

 

yeah. .but thats the thing. .you don't need an engine management system from what i've read for the pro charger.. .unless im totally wrong..i believe thats what i read
SPECS
HP Gain: 55-60%
Tube Diameter: 2.5"
Intercooler Mount: V
Drive System: 8x36mm cog
Bypass System: ProFlo
FMU: Digital
Additional Fuel Pump: ProPump
Fuel Inj.: Not req'd
Computer/Ignition Mods.: not req'd

 

The ATI does come with an engine management. It's just crap though. That's why so many engines blew with it when the kit first came out - because it doesn't pull any timing. It just adds some fuel and you have no control over timing. If you ran race gas - no problem, but you probably aren't about to do that

People only started getting reliable procharger setups when they changed the engine management and tuned the car. The vortech is actually the better deal compared to the procharger because it's about the same price but you can fully tune it and has less maintenance. The procharger pretty much maxes out at 400-430whp before it starts failing and breaking belts. Also the bypass valve on the procharger isn't very good. People often swap it out once they start trying to push the kit for more power. Changing the procharger's oil is a pain and you have to use expensive proprietary oil

I'm not sure the procharger - or any centrifugal SC is what you're looking for though. They live to be reved hard and so if you don't redline the car much out on the street when no one's around, a turbo is going to probably be more what you want since it'll give you the power earlier

 

you are a complete idiot if you think you dont need an ecu or injectors....

heres my two cents, and you can take it how you want to but i am speaking from knowledge....if you are going to do something like FI, DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!! do not make sacrifices in order to save money. if you dont have the money then FI is not for you

 

im not saying that i DONT NEED it. .but im stating facts that im reading and im going to call to make sure. .
read wha ti posted in blue (less colorblind) NOT REQUIRED!!!!!!!

 

well I guess ATI isn't classifying their engine management as "engine management"

all it is, is a box that increases fuel pressure and fuel a certain amount as PSI increases. It's completely passive

 

+1
I don't care how much fuel enrichment you do on your car, I don't think even a 10:1 A/F will suppress knock if you are running stock timing at 9psi.

 

so if you decide you want the procharger, but don't want their cheesy fuel pressure box and fuel system, you can get the tuner kit and save a whole $500. The vortech actually comes with an ok engine management, but if you didn't want it or the fuel system, you save about $1800 for its tuner kit

The STS turbo kit comes with a UTEC from the start. IMO it's probably the best FI deal for the Z/G out there.

 

 

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