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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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Just got my car back from GTM. All I can say is THANK YOU SAM for hooking it up on the price and being so patient through the process with a few bumps. GTM uninstalled the piece of shlt Stillen and installed the following

Vortech Tuner kit
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Deatschwerks 600cc injectors
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JWT FMU
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Innovate XD-16 wideband
UTEC tuned by Sam

367 whp in 70 degree weather
355-360 whp in 90+ degree weather

I WISH I NEVER WENT TO STILLEN AND DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME


Right now, my car is having problems with pinging in the high rpms for some reason and Sam had to reduce alot of timing which hurt the power. Once I get my meth/water injection kit installed, Sam was nice enough to offer a retune to run more timing .

I possibly may have alot of carbon buildup thats sucking up fuel in high rpms and may be attributing to the pinging. The past year ive used alot of 76/mobil gas and maybe some arco once in a while?. Ive refilled using chevron w/techron 91 octane and bought a few techron fuel system cleaners to possibly alleviate the issue. Before they installed the JWT FMU, The 600cc injectors were maxed out at redline

My pinging issue has really been a pain in the *** to Sam to what should have been a easy install + tune . My question is, anyone else that installed FI had a similar problem to mine?

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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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CARB legal/approved like the Stillen too I'll assume?
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Very nice! Impressions of the Vortech over the Stillen? More/less fun to drive, miss the low end torque?

What's your max boost? So the FMU is installed w/o a return kit? Does that seem to be working out well enough?

Sorry for all of the questions
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:37 AM
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Should have went twin turbo from the start imo, you'll get tired of the vortech as I did quick
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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congrats...and great title for the thread!!!
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Very nice! Impressions of the Vortech over the Stillen? More/less fun to drive, miss the low end torque?

What's your max boost? So the FMU is installed w/o a return kit? Does that seem to be working out well enough?

Sorry for all of the questions
lost alot of low end but its beats the crap out of stillen mid range and up top. i believe max boost was 9-10 psi and yes the fmu is with no fuel return i believe.

FMU solved the issue of the 600cc injectors getting maxed out. Sam and I will be 100% happy once this engine knock issue is sorted out, I must have bought the bad batch from nissan since my car only has 25k miles on it.

Oyea, people say the stillen sounds good but the vortech sounds like a monster
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
Should have went twin turbo from the start imo, you'll get tired of the vortech as I did quick
350ish whp dynojet was my goal on my daily driver, which stillen couldnt even get close to. Im ver very happy with the added power
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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you'll go twins in the future, i see it
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wannabuy350z
you'll go twins in the future, i see it
+1, you'll get bored with the power fast
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
+1, you'll get bored with the power fast
just depends, i was very happy with 380whp and being able to put almost 100% of it down to the ground with ease. she use to be my daily but after i blew the motor, i went with twins and bought a daily.
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Congrats man. I actually have a setup pretty similar to yours. I don't have any pinging issues though. Hopefully you guys can get that issue worked out.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Congrats man. I actually have a setup pretty similar to yours. I don't have any pinging issues though. Hopefully you guys can get that issue worked out.
Thanks man, Im gonna get this meth/water injection kit on and retune. Changing pulleys to the larger one might be an option if my engine still knocks
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
just depends, i was very happy with 380whp and being able to put almost 100% of it down to the ground with ease. she use to be my daily but after i blew the motor, i went with twins and bought a daily.
right but the fact you went with twins says something imo, I know you went built and felt might as well. But most people get addicted and want more for example this guy getting the stillen and already jumping to vortech. Granted stillen kit sucks but from my understanding he is wanting more power
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
right but the fact you went with twins says something imo, I know you went built and felt might as well. But most people get addicted and want more for example this guy getting the stillen and already jumping to vortech. Granted stillen kit sucks but from my understanding he is wanting more power

Not everyone wants to drop over $10k to get the 450+hp on twins. Many people are happy with the 370-420 the Vortech gives. If I want more speed I'll jump on my Suzuki GSX-R, which cost much less than turbo setup and faster.

Vortech (new) + motorcycle (new) = cost of a good TT setup
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Originally Posted by c3 rolling
Thanks man, Im gonna get this meth/water injection kit on and retune. Changing pulleys to the larger one might be an option if my engine still knocks
The only difference in my setup is that I am running the HKS FCon iS emu instead of the UTEC. I am also running the Aquamist water/meth kit so hopefully that helps out with the pinging when you have it installed.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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I agree with chaparro. In a world of unlimited money, we would all be running built motors with twins. Some of us are content with having 320 - 360 hp at the wheels on a stock block. Hopefully I'll be a part of that group.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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This is why when anyone pms me about the stillen i try and send them a different direction.I for one should now that the stillen sucks for the money you put into it.Why do you think i went straight to the greddy twins!
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Good luck Paul with everything but hopefully this time you will get what you want.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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"I WISH I NEVER WENT TO STILLEN AND DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME"

I couldn't put it any better. Stillen wasn't completely honest, now my project has taken longer & I've spent too much to do it right. Honestly, I don't care how much power I end up with. I have an Aquamist kit & clutchpacks ready for install but I don't care now, I just want it DONE. My car is currently at GTM for a tune, hopefully all goes well & I get it back soon.

Good luck with the knock issue. I wouldn't use any of that fuel cleanser crap, just work on installing that WI.

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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabuy350z
you'll go twins in the future, i see it
agreed
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