SGP Racing a Scammer?
Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?
It is very easy to determine if a transmission has the transgo VB because it replaces 3 of the valves in the transmission, this is why Chris can determine that it is not a transgo VB.
Any other VB is garbage and the gains will be marginal, you need to upgrade the valves to get the full benefit, the other VB upgrade that does not replace the valves is the Stillen VB.
-George
GT Motorsports
Any other VB is garbage and the gains will be marginal, you need to upgrade the valves to get the full benefit, the other VB upgrade that does not replace the valves is the Stillen VB.
-George
GT Motorsports
Update:
Mark called today and apologized for the mixup. Turns out he didn't ship my transmission and committed again to shipping it out and sending me a tracking number via text tomorrow. I told him his lack of communication is killing him and he agreed. I'll update if I get a tracking number. Hopefully it ships this time.
Mark called today and apologized for the mixup. Turns out he didn't ship my transmission and committed again to shipping it out and sending me a tracking number via text tomorrow. I told him his lack of communication is killing him and he agreed. I'll update if I get a tracking number. Hopefully it ships this time.
I'll tell you this, and people take it for what you will.
My old roommate/boss is a great guy. He's got a good personality, he's got good people skills, and he's fairly intelligent. He owns his own small business, and has a number of customers that return to him time and time again. I however have learned to just never do business with him on any level. We go out to dinner, when he has a party me and my friends are always invited, it's always a good time. But he just doesn't have his head right when it comes to business.
I won't go into personal details, but there are a number of times where I've gone over to grab lunch with him and he'll be handing a customer keys to their car and I'll notice some things. Like the pair of tweeters from the front components sitting on a shelf in the install bay. Why weren't they installed, hell any number of reasons "no big deal" "customer will never know" "oops" "we'll install them next time he comes in" and the list goes on and on. Or the customer (a good friend at the time) will go in to pick up his convertible that he just dropped $2500 on some stereo equipment and install on, and the black exterior and interior will be covered in saw dust. Why not go clean it out before the guy comes in? "no big deal" "oh well he got a deal what does he expect" "hey he wanted the door panels made and the dust is from those door panels" etc etc.
He installed a remote start for a friend of his, and now the car won't start with the key, you HAVE to start it with the remote... How the hell do you let a car leave like that? How the hell do you do that to someone you consider a friend?
The major problem I have is he shrugs it off and honestly these people he wrongs don't care. They literally are like whatever, **** hooks me up so it's all good, he's never done me wrong.
I can tell by reading these posts that the people that don't complain aren't complaining because they are the same type of people, and that he has sweet talked them into believing the ********. All the personality in the world doesn't cover up the fact that theres bad stuff happening. If you remain blind to it, thats ok for you, but don't get all pissy when other people figure it out and start calling a duck a duck.
I'm posting this in another thread that is just as worthy.
My old roommate/boss is a great guy. He's got a good personality, he's got good people skills, and he's fairly intelligent. He owns his own small business, and has a number of customers that return to him time and time again. I however have learned to just never do business with him on any level. We go out to dinner, when he has a party me and my friends are always invited, it's always a good time. But he just doesn't have his head right when it comes to business.
I won't go into personal details, but there are a number of times where I've gone over to grab lunch with him and he'll be handing a customer keys to their car and I'll notice some things. Like the pair of tweeters from the front components sitting on a shelf in the install bay. Why weren't they installed, hell any number of reasons "no big deal" "customer will never know" "oops" "we'll install them next time he comes in" and the list goes on and on. Or the customer (a good friend at the time) will go in to pick up his convertible that he just dropped $2500 on some stereo equipment and install on, and the black exterior and interior will be covered in saw dust. Why not go clean it out before the guy comes in? "no big deal" "oh well he got a deal what does he expect" "hey he wanted the door panels made and the dust is from those door panels" etc etc.
He installed a remote start for a friend of his, and now the car won't start with the key, you HAVE to start it with the remote... How the hell do you let a car leave like that? How the hell do you do that to someone you consider a friend?
The major problem I have is he shrugs it off and honestly these people he wrongs don't care. They literally are like whatever, **** hooks me up so it's all good, he's never done me wrong.
I can tell by reading these posts that the people that don't complain aren't complaining because they are the same type of people, and that he has sweet talked them into believing the ********. All the personality in the world doesn't cover up the fact that theres bad stuff happening. If you remain blind to it, thats ok for you, but don't get all pissy when other people figure it out and start calling a duck a duck.
I'm posting this in another thread that is just as worthy.
UPDATE:
So, I just spoke with Chris again. He said he couldn't confirm that the VB is completely stock. He did however, say that it has steel dividers (dunno the term), while the upgraded VB from SGP that he took apart before had rubber dividers. The stock Nissan VB has steel dividers. I told him that I think they use the TransGo VB. He said if that is true, then they didn't do anything, because this is definitely NOT the TransGo VB. He uses the TransGo VB in the builds he does,so he knows that one very well.
He had been trying to reach SGP to see what exactly they use. He tried for the whole week. I told him how likely that was to succeed!
Can anyone confirm what VB they use at SGP IF they upgrade it?
Anyway, he is ordering the hard parts for me tomorrow and will be using Alto clutch packs (upgrading the numbers from 5-7 and 6-8); ProTorque TC, and TransGo VB. He will completely rebuild it like we are starting over from scratch.
So, I just spoke with Chris again. He said he couldn't confirm that the VB is completely stock. He did however, say that it has steel dividers (dunno the term), while the upgraded VB from SGP that he took apart before had rubber dividers. The stock Nissan VB has steel dividers. I told him that I think they use the TransGo VB. He said if that is true, then they didn't do anything, because this is definitely NOT the TransGo VB. He uses the TransGo VB in the builds he does,so he knows that one very well.
He had been trying to reach SGP to see what exactly they use. He tried for the whole week. I told him how likely that was to succeed!
Can anyone confirm what VB they use at SGP IF they upgrade it?
Anyway, he is ordering the hard parts for me tomorrow and will be using Alto clutch packs (upgrading the numbers from 5-7 and 6-8); ProTorque TC, and TransGo VB. He will completely rebuild it like we are starting over from scratch.
That sucks Marshall. Sorry to hear this.
This doesn't bode well for the pending inspection on my trans.
My understanding was that SGP supposedly uses TransGo for the valvebody upgrade. Regardless... You obviously didn't get what you paid for and I doubt I did either.
Update:
Mark called today and apologized for the mixup. Turns out he didn't ship my transmission and committed again to shipping it out and sending me a tracking number via text tomorrow. I told him his lack of communication is killing him and he agreed. I'll update if I get a tracking number. Hopefully it ships this time.
Mark called today and apologized for the mixup. Turns out he didn't ship my transmission and committed again to shipping it out and sending me a tracking number via text tomorrow. I told him his lack of communication is killing him and he agreed. I'll update if I get a tracking number. Hopefully it ships this time.
You know he's full of sh*t, right?
Sorry to break the bad news to you guys, but I'm pretty sure that SGP uses Transgo. The times that I have been there when a valve body was picked up to be upgraded, I have seen a Transgo box picked up also. The boxes I have seen go with the valve bodies look like this....
I'm confused as to where the screw up with yall's tranny's are happening. I know for a fact that the vavle body upgrades are not done in house. During the times I have been there, I have not seen auto trans being modified, so was this outsourced as well? Sorry I'm not familiar with what goes into modifying an auto trans.....
I'm confused as to where the screw up with yall's tranny's are happening. I know for a fact that the vavle body upgrades are not done in house. During the times I have been there, I have not seen auto trans being modified, so was this outsourced as well? Sorry I'm not familiar with what goes into modifying an auto trans.....
Last edited by MethodRN; Mar 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM.
Sorry to break the bad news to you guys, but I'm pretty sure that SGP uses Transgo. The times that I have been there when a valve body was picked up to be upgraded, I have seen a Transgo box picked up also. The boxes I have seen go with the valve bodies look like this....
I'm confused as to where the screw up with yall's tranny's are happening. I know for a fact that the vavle body upgrades are not done in house. During the times I have been there, I have not seen auto trans being modified, so was this outsourced as well? Sorry I'm not familiar with what goes into modifying an auto trans.....
I'm confused as to where the screw up with yall's tranny's are happening. I know for a fact that the vavle body upgrades are not done in house. During the times I have been there, I have not seen auto trans being modified, so was this outsourced as well? Sorry I'm not familiar with what goes into modifying an auto trans.....
I am guessing that the screw-ups happen because the customer is paying for one set of upgrages and when SGP send them out to the trans shop they are requesting a lesser set of upgrades. The customer is made to wait so lond that two things are almost gauranteed:
1. You are so happy to have your car back and its been so long since you drove it you're not sure if the trans feel better or not.
2. If you do notice a problem, you waited so long the first time that you are now hesitant to send it back for repair because you may not get it back for another several months.
All the while SGP is spending customers money and giving them the book of excuses why nothing is getting done.
I am guessing that the screw-ups happen because the customer is paying for one set of upgrages and when SGP send them out to the trans shop they are requesting a lesser set of upgrades. The customer is made to wait so lond that two things are almost gauranteed:
1. You are so happy to have your car back and its been so long since you drove it you're not sure if the trans feel better or not.
2. If you do notice a problem, you waited so long the first time that you are now hesitant to send it back for repair because you may not get it back for another several months.
All the while SGP is spending customers money and giving them the book of excuses why nothing is getting done.
1. You are so happy to have your car back and its been so long since you drove it you're not sure if the trans feel better or not.
2. If you do notice a problem, you waited so long the first time that you are now hesitant to send it back for repair because you may not get it back for another several months.
All the while SGP is spending customers money and giving them the book of excuses why nothing is getting done.
UPDATE:
So, I just spoke with Chris again. He said he couldn't confirm that the VB is completely stock. He did however, say that it has steel dividers (dunno the term), while the upgraded VB from SGP that he took apart before had rubber dividers. The stock Nissan VB has steel dividers. I told him that I think they use the TransGo VB. He said if that is true, then they didn't do anything, because this is definitely NOT the TransGo VB. He uses the TransGo VB in the builds he does,so he knows that one very well.
He had been trying to reach SGP to see what exactly they use. He tried for the whole week. I told him how likely that was to succeed!
Can anyone confirm what VB they use at SGP IF they upgrade it?
Anyway, he is ordering the hard parts for me tomorrow and will be using Alto clutch packs (upgrading the numbers from 5-7 and 6-8); ProTorque TC, and TransGo VB. He will completely rebuild it like we are starting over from scratch.
So, I just spoke with Chris again. He said he couldn't confirm that the VB is completely stock. He did however, say that it has steel dividers (dunno the term), while the upgraded VB from SGP that he took apart before had rubber dividers. The stock Nissan VB has steel dividers. I told him that I think they use the TransGo VB. He said if that is true, then they didn't do anything, because this is definitely NOT the TransGo VB. He uses the TransGo VB in the builds he does,so he knows that one very well.
He had been trying to reach SGP to see what exactly they use. He tried for the whole week. I told him how likely that was to succeed!
Can anyone confirm what VB they use at SGP IF they upgrade it?
Anyway, he is ordering the hard parts for me tomorrow and will be using Alto clutch packs (upgrading the numbers from 5-7 and 6-8); ProTorque TC, and TransGo VB. He will completely rebuild it like we are starting over from scratch.
FAWK AGAIN!!!
That sucks Marshall. Sorry to hear this. This doesn't bode well for the pending inspection on my trans.
My understanding was that SGP supposedly uses TransGo for the valvebody upgrade. Regardless... You obviously didn't get what you paid for and I doubt I did either.
That sucks Marshall. Sorry to hear this.
This doesn't bode well for the pending inspection on my trans. My understanding was that SGP supposedly uses TransGo for the valvebody upgrade. Regardless... You obviously didn't get what you paid for and I doubt I did either.
What a horrible situation but I think you're right - gotta assume the trans won't hold the power. I hope you guys can reverse charges and get something back to have the transmissions rebuilt and not be out the cost of 2 builds 
... SGP had a group buy on rebuilt transmissions a couple years back. I wonder how many of those actually got built.
Last edited by rcdash; Mar 4, 2009 at 06:06 AM.
Believe me, if somebody can definitively confirm that SGP uses only the TransGo VB for their "Full Race 5AT," I'll be a bit more dramatic at that point. Right now, I don't want to play the part of the fool and get over excited if that is not that case.
Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?
Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?
to everyone that got phooyphucked by mark, you guys have alot to actually go through with the class action lawsuit. there is a few people that i have personally talked to after getting burned by mark and have been trying to help them out. we offer a service at our new place just for people that been phooyphucked by mark. we take it upon ourselves that we are a new shop that will not ***** customers over but more like give them more then what they pay. it sucks to see that someone with something so good can run it into the ground. if anyone that has been screwed by mark wants to talk to me directly, my personal number is below. we will take care of whatever you guys need. now, we are not saying we are going to repay every bit of money that mark had stolen from you guys, but we will give you a discount on labor and also a awesome discount on parts. we will call this part of our service "sgp recovery specialists" anyone need anything let us know.
oldschool. you and me been on the same level. anytime you called me out on pm we figured everything out over the phone. im not here to bash anyone, i am trying to run a new business with two partners here away from houston. conroe to be exact. the thing that gets me is that no matter what people tell you and what people have gone through, it seems to me that it doesnt bother you. and i actually know why. a friend is a friend regardless right or wrong he is your friend. which i understand, its a thing called loyalty. you are loyal to a friend that has helped you out alot, a whole lot. but, the thing is, there are numerous people on this thread and also alot more people outside of my350z.com that has been screwed by mark. not sgp, just mark. i think if you can, really sit down with him and talk about whats REALLY going on. i had friends that were the same way, and in the end, it just brought me down. hence why i dont have as many people around me like i used to.
turismo, my dude. you know what it is man. bring the lude up and whatever else you got that needs work. we'll take care of you.
to anyone else that is chiming in on this thread or reading this thread. these 60 plus pages of this thread basically is saying this. DONT GO TO SGP! point blank. when you run a business, you gotta make sure all your customers are happy and get what they pay for, not just a chosen few. if you decide to go to sgp your taking a chance of getting ripped basically.
robertk. im not even gonna start. you know what was said between me and you the day i told you i was quitting soon. as stated before, i dont talk or do business with people that talks two ways. you can make it right by apologizing through pm to me.
xkr dont believe the hype from mark man. even if they do keep running the business will shut down. you cant run from karma
yes it is a transgo vb upgrade he uses. with that being said, i am going to vent one more time.
to everyone that got phooyphucked by mark, you guys have alot to actually go through with the class action lawsuit. there is a few people that i have personally talked to after getting burned by mark and have been trying to help them out. we offer a service at our new place just for people that been phooyphucked by mark. we take it upon ourselves that we are a new shop that will not ***** customers over but more like give them more then what they pay. it sucks to see that someone with something so good can run it into the ground. if anyone that has been screwed by mark wants to talk to me directly, my personal number is below. we will take care of whatever you guys need. now, we are not saying we are going to repay every bit of money that mark had stolen from you guys, but we will give you a discount on labor and also a awesome discount on parts. we will call this part of our service "sgp recovery specialists" anyone need anything let us know.
oldschool. you and me been on the same level. anytime you called me out on pm we figured everything out over the phone. im not here to bash anyone, i am trying to run a new business with two partners here away from houston. conroe to be exact. the thing that gets me is that no matter what people tell you and what people have gone through, it seems to me that it doesnt bother you. and i actually know why. a friend is a friend regardless right or wrong he is your friend. which i understand, its a thing called loyalty. you are loyal to a friend that has helped you out alot, a whole lot. but, the thing is, there are numerous people on this thread and also alot more people outside of my350z.com that has been screwed by mark. not sgp, just mark. i think if you can, really sit down with him and talk about whats REALLY going on. i had friends that were the same way, and in the end, it just brought me down. hence why i dont have as many people around me like i used to.
turismo, my dude. you know what it is man. bring the lude up and whatever else you got that needs work. we'll take care of you.
to anyone else that is chiming in on this thread or reading this thread. these 60 plus pages of this thread basically is saying this. DONT GO TO SGP! point blank. when you run a business, you gotta make sure all your customers are happy and get what they pay for, not just a chosen few. if you decide to go to sgp your taking a chance of getting ripped basically.
robertk. im not even gonna start. you know what was said between me and you the day i told you i was quitting soon. as stated before, i dont talk or do business with people that talks two ways. you can make it right by apologizing through pm to me.
xkr dont believe the hype from mark man. even if they do keep running the business will shut down. you cant run from karma
to everyone that got phooyphucked by mark, you guys have alot to actually go through with the class action lawsuit. there is a few people that i have personally talked to after getting burned by mark and have been trying to help them out. we offer a service at our new place just for people that been phooyphucked by mark. we take it upon ourselves that we are a new shop that will not ***** customers over but more like give them more then what they pay. it sucks to see that someone with something so good can run it into the ground. if anyone that has been screwed by mark wants to talk to me directly, my personal number is below. we will take care of whatever you guys need. now, we are not saying we are going to repay every bit of money that mark had stolen from you guys, but we will give you a discount on labor and also a awesome discount on parts. we will call this part of our service "sgp recovery specialists" anyone need anything let us know.
oldschool. you and me been on the same level. anytime you called me out on pm we figured everything out over the phone. im not here to bash anyone, i am trying to run a new business with two partners here away from houston. conroe to be exact. the thing that gets me is that no matter what people tell you and what people have gone through, it seems to me that it doesnt bother you. and i actually know why. a friend is a friend regardless right or wrong he is your friend. which i understand, its a thing called loyalty. you are loyal to a friend that has helped you out alot, a whole lot. but, the thing is, there are numerous people on this thread and also alot more people outside of my350z.com that has been screwed by mark. not sgp, just mark. i think if you can, really sit down with him and talk about whats REALLY going on. i had friends that were the same way, and in the end, it just brought me down. hence why i dont have as many people around me like i used to.
turismo, my dude. you know what it is man. bring the lude up and whatever else you got that needs work. we'll take care of you.
to anyone else that is chiming in on this thread or reading this thread. these 60 plus pages of this thread basically is saying this. DONT GO TO SGP! point blank. when you run a business, you gotta make sure all your customers are happy and get what they pay for, not just a chosen few. if you decide to go to sgp your taking a chance of getting ripped basically.
robertk. im not even gonna start. you know what was said between me and you the day i told you i was quitting soon. as stated before, i dont talk or do business with people that talks two ways. you can make it right by apologizing through pm to me.
xkr dont believe the hype from mark man. even if they do keep running the business will shut down. you cant run from karma
This bout made me cry.
Well said bro. We'll set it up for this week end.
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Since Old Skool seems to think that all of the problems people have had are their own fault, I'd like to know where I messed up the transaction. See the attached PDF invoice for reference.
$5,500 deposit 1/10/08 (through SRD, not directly, I paid SRD $25k upfront)
$12,000 deposit 2/25/08 (through SRD)
$4051.80 - 03/10/08 (paid on my debit card directly)
That's $21,551.80 total.
I received my engine and transmission back on 4/15/08. I was missing the flywheel and several small pieces. I won't get into all the details of the problems with getting these parts back. The main issue is that an independent transmission builder took my transmission apart and found that it was STOCK! What were they doing from 1/10/08 through 4/15/08, if my transmission was never even touched? Now I'm concerned about the work that they claim they did on my engine as well.
$5,500 deposit 1/10/08 (through SRD, not directly, I paid SRD $25k upfront)
$12,000 deposit 2/25/08 (through SRD)
$4051.80 - 03/10/08 (paid on my debit card directly)
That's $21,551.80 total.
I received my engine and transmission back on 4/15/08. I was missing the flywheel and several small pieces. I won't get into all the details of the problems with getting these parts back. The main issue is that an independent transmission builder took my transmission apart and found that it was STOCK! What were they doing from 1/10/08 through 4/15/08, if my transmission was never even touched? Now I'm concerned about the work that they claim they did on my engine as well.
Johnny - just backin up my story...like I said, didn't mean to make waves for you. I just don't like being called a liar. I go to bat for the ppl who treat me right and try to inject some truth into an ugly situation.
All you other guys who had issues with SGP, I hope you get them resolved. I have been helping iamdigital communicate with Mark when I see him. I pass along the message and do my best to get iamdigital his tranny. I have never called him out on his claim. Just been trying to help the guy out...yet I'm still the "bad guy" defending a "bad shop" according to some of the posters in this thread. I'm not in here to beat on ppl who dis SGP. Everyone has a right to their opinion and review. Just as I have. One reason I posted my good experiences with this shop. You don't like my opinion, don't read it. If I know you're lying, I'm gonna call you out. Plain n simple.
For those of you who would like to continue to attack my character...be prepared.
K... Sit down yall. This may be a long read.
I have been hesitant to state my situation regarding SGP during this whole thread, but I have spoken with Rude and have told him personally what my situation is.
*Disclaimer*
Gotparts and Northside are like family to me and they know me better than anyone who has been posting in this thread. I have nothing personal against Old School and from what I know are on good terms. Turismo and I are on good terms as well from my stand point. I know he's been screwed and I really feel for him. Unfortunately his dealings with SGP have caused him to get out of his Z.
I have supported SGP in the past, have recommended them to people, have rocked their decals and thanked Mark in my Modified feature. I have not openly bashed Mark because he has tried to help me out with my situation. However, I have also not defended him personally because I realize that he has not provided the service that many people deserved. I have defended SGP because Gotparts aka Johnny is my friend and seemed to have been catching some flack for what has happened at SGP during his tenure there. Johnny has done awsome work on my car and I will support him in his new venture as best I can because I trully believe in his skill as a tech as well as his customer service.
The remaining tech at SGP, Eric, has been a stand up guy and has gotten caught up in everything because he has been a loyal employee. I have nothing but good things to say about Eric and I know his intentions are in the right place.
Now for my situation. My car has been at SGP for an extended amount of time for what initially was a blown turbo. After having the turbo rebuilt, and only putting in less 100 miles, the turbo blew one more time. It was later discovered that a pinched off stainless steel braided water line that cools the turbo was the culprit. After several attempts to find a solution to the oil leak issue an oil control solenoid was removed because it was believed to have been a restriction under orders from Mark. This oil control solenoid was the solution from APS for their check valve issue from the oil scavange pump. Why it was removed, I'm not sure. Because it was removed, the following rebuild turbo is now leaking oil on both exhaust and intake side of turbo. Since it was removed it was misplaced and can no longer be found. I have since ordered and waiting on a new oil control solenoid from GTM.
Mark has been helpful in that he has not charged me for the consequent center catridges. I'm not really sure he should be charging me anyway, since I never really took possesion of the car since these problems have come up. I have also paid out of pocket to replace a part that I never authorized to be removed and I don't feel responsible for replacing it, but I did anyway just to get this issue resolved. I could be wrong to assume that I shouldn't have to pay for these insuing problems after I paid for the initial turbo rebuild because I was not responsible for the problems that have come up. Maybe another vendor could enlighten me on this aspect. Did Mark do the right thing by not charging me?
So, after an initial blown turbo, my car has sat at SGP for the better part of a year. My dilema in this whole situation is that I have tried to be patient, and I have tried to remain quite, but I just feel people should know that I am also having problems with SGP(Mark) even though I have tried to be a loyal customer.
Now it will be contested that the APS ST is not a good kit to begin with and there were inherent design flaws and therefore I'm at fault for choosing the kit. However, there are plenty of other people that have the kit that were installed at other shops that don't seem to be having near as many problems that I'm having.
So there you have it... bash away! ahahahaha
I have been hesitant to state my situation regarding SGP during this whole thread, but I have spoken with Rude and have told him personally what my situation is.
*Disclaimer*
Gotparts and Northside are like family to me and they know me better than anyone who has been posting in this thread. I have nothing personal against Old School and from what I know are on good terms. Turismo and I are on good terms as well from my stand point. I know he's been screwed and I really feel for him. Unfortunately his dealings with SGP have caused him to get out of his Z.
I have supported SGP in the past, have recommended them to people, have rocked their decals and thanked Mark in my Modified feature. I have not openly bashed Mark because he has tried to help me out with my situation. However, I have also not defended him personally because I realize that he has not provided the service that many people deserved. I have defended SGP because Gotparts aka Johnny is my friend and seemed to have been catching some flack for what has happened at SGP during his tenure there. Johnny has done awsome work on my car and I will support him in his new venture as best I can because I trully believe in his skill as a tech as well as his customer service.
The remaining tech at SGP, Eric, has been a stand up guy and has gotten caught up in everything because he has been a loyal employee. I have nothing but good things to say about Eric and I know his intentions are in the right place.
Now for my situation. My car has been at SGP for an extended amount of time for what initially was a blown turbo. After having the turbo rebuilt, and only putting in less 100 miles, the turbo blew one more time. It was later discovered that a pinched off stainless steel braided water line that cools the turbo was the culprit. After several attempts to find a solution to the oil leak issue an oil control solenoid was removed because it was believed to have been a restriction under orders from Mark. This oil control solenoid was the solution from APS for their check valve issue from the oil scavange pump. Why it was removed, I'm not sure. Because it was removed, the following rebuild turbo is now leaking oil on both exhaust and intake side of turbo. Since it was removed it was misplaced and can no longer be found. I have since ordered and waiting on a new oil control solenoid from GTM.
Mark has been helpful in that he has not charged me for the consequent center catridges. I'm not really sure he should be charging me anyway, since I never really took possesion of the car since these problems have come up. I have also paid out of pocket to replace a part that I never authorized to be removed and I don't feel responsible for replacing it, but I did anyway just to get this issue resolved. I could be wrong to assume that I shouldn't have to pay for these insuing problems after I paid for the initial turbo rebuild because I was not responsible for the problems that have come up. Maybe another vendor could enlighten me on this aspect. Did Mark do the right thing by not charging me?
So, after an initial blown turbo, my car has sat at SGP for the better part of a year. My dilema in this whole situation is that I have tried to be patient, and I have tried to remain quite, but I just feel people should know that I am also having problems with SGP(Mark) even though I have tried to be a loyal customer.
Now it will be contested that the APS ST is not a good kit to begin with and there were inherent design flaws and therefore I'm at fault for choosing the kit. However, there are plenty of other people that have the kit that were installed at other shops that don't seem to be having near as many problems that I'm having.
So there you have it... bash away! ahahahaha
Last edited by MethodRN; Mar 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM.