What do you guys think about adding a stillen supercharger to an STS exhaust set up? I wouldn't know how to set ecu mapping or tuning, or even heat issues though. I would essentially add the supercharger, replace the current turbo with a bigger turbo, and buy a bigger radiator. Any thoughts, suggestions?

 

cheeper just to go built motor or bigger turbos. its cool and all but not practical.

 

yea but the sts really sucks until you get it going so i wanted the supercharger for better pick up. plus 1/2 of the project is already installed.

 

I have been approached by a local shop with this idea, its more complicated then you would think to have this done not to mention the cost. If you have money to burn go for it otherwise I agree with the above statement.

 

It sounds badass but the characteristic difference of the way they both operate IMO would spell disaster for the motor. Obviously i'm just speculating tho.. interesting idea nonetheless

 

Theres a twin charged Z in Japan (by ORC I think)
I found a link on these boards somewhere.

 

Maybe a little shot of N20 down low to get things moving?

 

it would actually be pretty simple. The stillen doesnt use a standard intercooler and blows right into the crankcase, so essentially they would be 2 independent installs. You'd prolly need a few custom fabbed charge pipes to route around the stillen, but any decent shop could weld those up in a day.

no reason you couldnt do it. tuning would be no different than anything else as your motor doesnt know whats forcing the air.

i say go for it. the STS systems are pretty cheap and like you said, you could run a much bigger turbo bc the roots SC will get that motor rolling quick!

 

+1 to what others have said. There are too many cost-effective alternatives (thankfully) to consider twin charging practical for the Z/G.

 

Twin charging has been around for a long time (I think it started with Rally cars back in the late 70s or early 80s, but don't quote me on this).

That said, since there are no twin charger kits made for our cars, I expect that a lot of tweaks and modifications will be required along the way to make it work suitably, which means you probably will need lots and lots of $$$ (pretty much as what everyone else has said). I would not go with a twin charging system until a kit for our cars is out, AND it has been tested and proven...

 

Twin charging has been around for a long time (I think it started with Rally cars back in the late 70s or early 80s, but don't quote me on this).

That said, since there are no twin charger kits made for our cars, I expect that a lot of tweaks and modifications will be required along the way to make it work suitably, which means you probably will need lots and lots of $$$ (pretty much as what everyone else has said). I would not go with a twin charging system until a kit for our cars is out, AND it has been tested and proven...

My Greddy's provide a lot of boost as low as the 3k-4k rpm range. I beleive that there are other turbos that spool up even quicker, so you're not going to gain a whole lot since you probably won't drive at less than 2k rpm, especially if you have a cammed motor.

 

^^ not sure why you guys think that would be so expensive.

The stillen doesnt have any charge pipes. The STS is rear mount. Maybe 3 custom charge pipes to route around the stillen's belts and it would bolt right up.

Plus you can get a sts setup for like 4k$ and he already has the stillen. way cheaper than say a PL kit or about the same as a turbonetics (assumign poor resale on the stillen)

 

why not just do sequential turbos?

 

now that would be sick amount of fab. Those supras with seq turbos are so ****** hot!!

 

...and they sound badazz!!!

 

Please go for it!!! I want to see this done. I did a ?? thread about a year ago and got flamed but if you look at any kit making 700+ the boost doesn't kick in till say 4500RPM or higher. Any lower and your just burning rubber. Throw a SC in the front and a huge turbo in the back or on the other side of the engine and it's be an amazing car. If only an EMS could time it all correctly....

 

I have seen it done on a evo before. It can be done, just going to be a money pit to start off with and you can't take any short cuts.

 

I'm not sure that this setup will outperform a Greddy twin turbo system. I guess we won't know until somebody tries it. It would be great if somebody would do so and post their results.

 

for one i think your going at it the wrong way from what i have got before is you use the supercharger to spool the turbo thus getting rid of the lag, with you using the turbo to spool the supercharger that isnt goign to work. like i said before you would need a centrifical supercharger have the outlet runing into the air inlet on the turbo, if you want ot get rid of lag just do two turbos and i dont mean twins i mean one on top of the other

 

It sounds like you are willing to take on something fun, so my vote is to go for it. Plus we all may learn something in the process The supercharger will come online early and provide SC power down low, plus it will be moving more air, thus creating more exhaust which will spool the turbo quicker. Engine management is not a problem, any qualified standalone should handle it with ease - feel free to hit me up if you have any questions on that.