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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Re: you still got an 04 GSXr you wanna trade?

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ok, im in the process of working a deal on the entire car but i saw your post and wanted to see if your still interested let me know


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I'll run this by my boy Zmedic and see what he thinks about this, thanks.....Will get back 2 u..



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yes includes turbo, I would pay shipping on my end if you would be willing too...



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ur asking 7k for the entire setup that includes the turbo or no? My stock motor has 29,233miles. We are on opposite coasts so how would this happen, just wondering???



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I was browsin the engine threads and saw you threw out the possibly trading your gsxr for a built motor, well i have my motor for sale/trade, Check out my thread VQ35DE 9:1 arias pistons, eagle rods, L19 kit, HKS MHG, all new timiging equipment, stock heads ported and polished, 5 angle valve job. 7kmiles on the motor. let me know if you might be interested.

chekc out the engine threads look for built motor +turbonetics kit + goodies thread by goleboy
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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ur lucky that you didnt go through with it!

I was thinkin about it though even if i did all my Hw on this ca b4 I bought it I would still be in this situation. i have contacted all the shops that performed work on it and they all say the same thing.... that they did work on it and everything was fine when it left their shop...
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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single turbo is fine... yeah the fitment isnt the greatest but in the end there is still a turbo on the car. i can push it pretty far with a built motor and if I go to a stock block it will be pointless because this is the whole reason i bought a car with a built motor was because I am unsatisfied with the power. the turbo on there isnt the greatest but I am not planning on keeping it for very long... prolly gonna get the hybrid t3/t67 to make the power i am seeking.
with the TN setup, it takes the stars to align to make even 500... doubting you would be happy with the power that kit can make. Even if you put a larger turbo on it, you will basically have to redesign the kit to incorporate large enough piping to make the larger turbo worth it -> look at Tauran's build. Throwing 6-10 grand at a motor build for a TN kit is not worth it. The selling point, if there is one , of the TN kit is its integration with a stock setup.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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with the TN setup, it takes the stars to align to make even 500... doubting you would be happy with the power that kit can make. Even if you put a larger turbo on it, you will basically have to redesign the kit to incorporate large enough piping to make the larger turbo worth it -> look at Tauran's build. Throwing 6-10 grand at a motor build for a TN kit is not worth it. The selling point, if there is one , of the TN kit is its integration with a stock setup.
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Taurran's experience is proof that if you want more power out of a single turbo setup, it makes more sense both financially and practically to upgrade to the PowerLab kit.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Taurran's experience is proof that if you want more power out of a single turbo setup, it makes more sense both financially and practically to upgrade to the PowerLab kit.
- Seems that most members who want the big singles are the road course and autocross guys right? That way you get the big torque out of the corners.

Although I must say, if you are used to a stock Z, the TN Single is a vast improvement over stock power. With a built motor and a good tune, you should be able to beat on that car all day long and just plan on a clutch upgrade down the road and enjoy it.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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yeah but i am comin from a vortech....
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yeah but i am comin from a vortech....
I was responding to your comment about upgrading your Turbonetics kit to a T3/T67. IMO the piping of the Turbonetics kit is inadequate to properly support a larger turbo and it doesn't make much sense to upgrade the turbo only. You just won't get performance anywhere near the PowerLab kit by doing that. The GT35R kit is good to 650whp and it spools quicker.

What are your power goals? If they are in the low 400's and budget is a concern, I say stick with your Turbonetics kit as is (without upgrading the turbo) and just get the crappy install issues resolved. If you're looking to make more than mid 400's, I say ditch the kit and upgrade to PowerLab. My .
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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I always try to keep the budget reasonable, but ususally I end up spending waay over just like everybody else.

I am lookng to make 600.

whats this whole thing about the piping not being adequate I havent heard anything abou this before??....
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by forced_04
I always try to keep the budget reasonable, but ususally I end up spending waay over just like everybody else.

I am lookng to make 600.

whats this whole thing about the piping not being adequate I havent heard anything abou this before??....
You took a pretty long treck down the wrong path my friend if 600 is your goal. 600 is dreaming.

Again, find a good deal on a stock long block, install that, and be happy with ~350-375
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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No chance at 600+ without a substantial amount of nitrous. I wish you the best of luck with the rehab and hope the problem isn't too costly
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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we'll see

the red hot Z is makin five's with not even that much done just a good tune and built...

what is holdin back the kit from makin it...???
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Originally Posted by forced_04
we'll see

the red hot Z is makin five's with not even that much done just a good tune and built...

what is holdin back the kit from makin it...???
WAT?!?!?!?!?! Do you have a dynosheet to back this up??? And if so, was this dyno provided to you by the seller, or did you get this dynoed yourself???
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by forced_04
we'll see

the red hot Z is makin five's with not even that much done just a good tune and built...

what is holdin back the kit from makin it...???
And how much boost is that????? And what kind of dyno was used???
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by forced_04
I always try to keep the budget reasonable, but ususally I end up spending waay over just like everybody else.

I am lookng to make 600.

whats this whole thing about the piping not being adequate I havent heard anything abou this before??....
you picked the wrong platform for reasonable budgets,hp per dollar on vq is about as expensive as a production car can get.bringing a tn kit to 600 is like steching a rubber band to it's breaking point and hoping it won't break(has anyone been past the 5's yet?).i never say never....but g/l.you need to reconsider your goals considering the hand you've been dealt.600 dd is a complete re-do,what research did you do before purchasing this car?
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I believe if he makes 600whp on a DJ with a TN single he would be the first. There was a thread a few months ago with a kid and his dad that claimed to have beaten the whp number that Sam@GTM had as the highest, 526whp. Here is the link:

https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...o-problem.html
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cass007
I believe if he makes 600whp on a DJ with a TN single he would be the first. There was a thread a few months ago with a kid and his dad that claimed to have beaten the whp number that Sam@GTM had as the highest, 526whp. Here is the link:

https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...o-problem.html
i would be interested to see the iat's at 17 psi,i would say that meth was holding the tn kits hand in that thread.there are other questionable factors,such as 100 octane.i guess it comes down to what you consider a streetable/dd.my whole point was,the op did not do his homework and at what price do these numbers become reality?
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by forced_04
we'll see

the red hot Z is makin five's with not even that much done just a good tune and built...

what is holdin back the kit from makin it...???
I have only ever seen 1 TN car make over 500.... and let's just say, more than 1 person has tried

I wish you the best of luck, but I think it is fair to say that unless you throw the kitchen sink at your build... meth injection, race gas, 100 shot of nitrous, etc, 600 will be nothing more than a dream
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Originally Posted by go-fast
you picked the wrong platform for reasonable budgets,hp per dollar on vq is about as expensive as a production car can get.bringing a tn kit to 600 is like steching a rubber band to it's breaking point and hoping it won't break(has anyone been past the 5's yet?).i never say never....but g/l.you need to reconsider your goals considering the hand you've been dealt.600 dd is a complete re-do,what research did you do before purchasing this car?
So far there has been 2 true turbonetics kits over 500hp. GTM's car and as mentioned before the kid that had national speed do his setup. Craig's car made over 500hp but it was more custom then anything. I'm hoping for around 515hp on mine, but mine is a modified turbonetics kit also.
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mine went boom! valve clearances = teh suxed. it was so poor forged just basically gave me a new block to rebuild. without sharif's help i couldnt have afforded to do this all over again.

i feel your pain brother. good luck.

Huh? I must have been out of the loop.. When did this happen? Glad you sorted it out though...
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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already got the meth kit in my trunk.. not planning to stay with this turbo either. the car has a utec with nine map selector so 100 even 110 is pretty easy for me to switch to especially since I got it like 10miles from my house.

this isnt going to be my daily driver...

the car I was talking about is for sale loooke for "red hot Z"

No one has still said why the kit cannot make high numbers? I get that the kit doesnt come with the fuel required nor the prefferable turbo to do it.

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