I just realized I OT'ed the **** outta my own thread... ohh well

 

yes I did:

 

Red Hot Z is the GTM car.

 

I noticed that after I made my post.... the kit didnt take that much to pull those numbers out. To me it looks like if you take the basics steps that everyone takes to make power i.e. cams meth boost built good tune that it make good power. and the low end torque is nice too!

I never expected to get this kit and just add boost and be magically 600whp...

if anyone has a turbo and wants to go for big numbers they almost always have to switch turbo setup's, fuel, cams, etc.... its pretty much a given at least from i have seen in the past and have experienced

 

Well, if you think it is that easy, I will be anticipating your upcoming dyno charts. Good luck; you most definitely will need it

 

what in my post made it seem so simple?

cheer up man! did you have a bad experience or something.


the car has a built motor not sleeved so its good to around 650 maybe a little less since this turbo make a considerable amount more torque than hp.

 

If I were a betting man, I would say that motor is junk, and may even go so far as saying that it is junk for even a core. IMHO you will be looking at a full rebuild or at least a replacement stock motor. Again, good luck, you will need it

 

yep, mine wasnt, had to go with new forged performance block. the builtz motor wasnt even worth salvaging.

 

Ouch........

 

Wrong.
Thats why you just start with the right setup.

 

First of all, I misunderstood and thought you were talking about your own car making 500's. Glad you clarified.

Second, the limitations of the Turbonetics kit have been discussed several times in prior threads if you do some searching. You are not the first person who has tried to push the limits of the Turbonetics kit beyond it's design specifications and it's intended power capabilities. Taurran's build thread was the most convincing at showing the restrictions of the relatively small diameter piping of the kit. JT at Performance Factory had to replace nearly all the original piping with larger diameter pipes. They tried to troubleshoot and did it one section at a time. They discovered restriction after restriction that necessitated larger piping to facilitate flow and efficiency.

How and why do you think the PowerLab kit was created? Because there was demand from unsatisfied Turbonetics and APS single turbo customers for a single turbo kit with higher power potential. There wasn't another single turbo kit available on the market at the time that was more capable. Hence, why you saw a lot of guys switching from Turbonetics kits to twin kits like Greddy, APS, and JWT.

PowerLab did their research and dissected the Turbonetics kit. The conclusion was that much of the piping was too small in diameter. Therefore, the PowerLab kit utilizes 3" diameter piping including a true 3" outlet at the turbo compressor with a true 3" downpipe, as well as 3" piping all the way to and from the intercooler. The result is a kit that has such tight fitment that it requires a tube of KY, some slow jams, and a competent installer to get it all to fit just right. But the piping flows so effeciently that you can make 650whp by maxing out the GT35R and 700+whp by maxing out a GT37R with the same piping. And keep in mind that those numbers were accomplished without ported & polished heads and/or oversized valves, without water/meth injection, and without nitrous. Just C16.

I still think the PowerLab kit makes more sense for your stated power goals on a single turbo. Past experience from other members has shown that the Turbonetics kit is a royal PITA to try and get big numbers out of, even with significant modifications and $$$.

Good luck to you if you decide to continue with your stated plans.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!

geez i knew someone would come through!

much appreciation.

ok so now i know where I stand and should decide pretty soon. I think low2mid 5's isnt too far off my original goal so I could settle for that. that is if the motor isnt too effed up

 

That's sig worthy right there.

 

He didn't say anything that wasn't already stated before.

 

lol

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