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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Well I just got home from Iraq and bought a new house so I have been busy. I'm back now, finishin the build gettin the car ready to get tuned at Injected. So it will be ready in time for zdayz.
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Btw..... Glad to have you back safely
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Yes me and the wife will be at ZDayZ
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Congrats XKR and Forged!! I have enjoyed the "powa" part of this build and now it's on to other aspects of the car. Cannot wait to see the final product!!
Thanks..... I am going to have sharif post pix and also all the top secret things I have been hiding
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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You know Raj is going to start some crap with me... I just wanted to get the first word.
first word...and at the air-strip...the last...
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Congrats! thats some serious power sir, and where are the videos????
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1982
Well I just got home from Iraq and bought a new house so I have been busy. I'm back now, finishin the build gettin the car ready to get tuned at Injected.
Love the second half of your sig dude!!! So true, so true
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Thank you, thank you. Everyone we can weather this storm.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Very, very nice. Everything worked out to be a very good combination. The cams and turbos are working very well to hold over 600 ft-lb of torque from 4800 rpm until almost 7200 rpm.

Again, very, very nice. Great job!

The only place I saw the boost indicated was Rich's post. So it was 26 psi???

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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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got that from this post

Originally Posted by XKR
New numbers..... 815whp @ 26 psi DD..... I told Sharif no more than 800 whp on his dyno..... This will get me to 1000 on DJ....he wanted to go more... But I ran out of *****
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
got that from this post
Thank you, Rich. I missed that.

My calculator computed 23.7 PSI assuming a 30.5% energy conversion efficiency. Putting in a 29% energy conversion efficiency gets me right at 26 psi.

That somewhat makes sense since they are probably pulling the timing back a bit or running it a bit on the rich side, which might be happening if Sharif is being conservative.

Sharif, are you willing to share the timing and AFR information?

For those who have the spreadsheet, I'm going to update the spreadsheet to also consider compression ratio in the calculation. At this point it is burried into the overall efficiency ratio, but I think it will be beneficial to have compression ratio as its own parameter. I need to find some very reliable data, generate an equation that converts the compression ratio to an efficiency percentage, and then include that in the spreadsheet. It will take a little bit of effort, and right now I am swamped at work (we're into december, and all the big companies want their patent applications filed before the end of the year), so it probably won't happen until after the first of the year.

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Congrats Mike I am glad that you hit your goal! Now spill the beans on this secrets...
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by XKR
New numbers..... 815whp @ 26 psi DD..... I told Sharif no more than 800 whp on his dyno..... This will get me to 1000 on DJ....he wanted to go more... But I ran out of *****
CONGRATS on the new numbers MIKE! .......lets us know when you get it on a dynojet though to avoid speculation.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ttg35fort
Thank you, Rich. I missed that.

My calculator computed 23.7 PSI assuming a 30.5% energy conversion efficiency. Putting in a 29% energy conversion efficiency gets me right at 26 psi.

That somewhat makes sense since they are probably pulling the timing back a bit or running it a bit on the rich side, which might be happening if Sharif is being conservative.

Sharif, are you willing to share the timing and AFR information?

For those who have the spreadsheet, I'm going to update the spreadsheet to also consider compression ratio in the calculation. At this point it is burried into the overall efficiency ratio, but I think it will be beneficial to have compression ratio as its own parameter. I need to find some very reliable data, generate an equation that converts the compression ratio to an efficiency percentage, and then include that in the spreadsheet. It will take a little bit of effort, and right now I am swamped at work (we're into december, and all the big companies want their patent applications filed before the end of the year), so it probably won't happen until after the first of the year.
Lol .... Sharif was VERY conservative as usual .... You know he is not going to give out that info Terry....875 whp DD is where Sharif Would have taken it to if I did not stop him.....

He had alot of problems keeping it on the dyno at. 815 whp.....I could just see the problems at 875

I agree.... I told Sharif and Sam that I wanted big power with quick spool- up.... That was really my goal. I knew they could get the power.... The other was where they had to do the math. Sharif felt the right Cam match up was the key....This went way beyond my expectation....

Danny..... Thanks..... The secret is just electronics stuff..... Need help keeping this beast on the road.

Thanks so much to all you guys and the community for supporting us throught this build..... I know the pressure was on Sharif to pull it off ... Mostly from me.....
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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i'd really like to know what your IDC's were like with those 1200cc injectors. sell the ones I have before I even start.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
i'd really like to know what your IDC's were like with those 1200cc injectors. sell the ones I have before I even start.
Rich, what fuel injectors do you have and what is you hp goal?
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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I think I calc'd the HKS 1000cc would be good to the high 8, low 900's? I cant imagine how much those denso 1200cc ones must cost. 1600$ or more prolly

I'd have to go with precision injectors if I went any bigger for that kinda price.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Very nice Mike.......very nice.......now when are you gonna adopt me so i get to drive dads car..............lol.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by XKR
New numbers..... 815whp @ 26 psi DD..... I told Sharif no more than 800 whp on his dyno..... This will get me to 1000 on DJ....he wanted to go more... But I ran out of *****
I lost track and wasn't keeping up with this thread.... Congrats Mike and Sharif! Looking forward to seeing the DJ numbers.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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this should put XKR's car in perspective.

Hal's gt4202 car makes 775 whp, traps 148mph and goes like this on the road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9mdt...layer_embedded

Now checkout how XKR OWNS the area under the curve AND makes more power. +300 ft-lbs! Holy sheetballs. That thing will be retarded on the street!
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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true, but hal will have more traction

i dunno that area under the curve means that much if you can rev the way hal car revs...i'm pretty sure it was going well over 8000rpms, pretty crazy.

Anyways, when is zdayz? soudns like it will be a while till we see dj numbers ...when you gettin the diffuser parts on?

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