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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Just noticed this thread Cass. Thanks for the info. WTF happened to the other thread that Jay'Z made??? It just disappeared!!!

My 2 cents... Go with option 2 if quick spool is important to you and you're fairly sure that you're not gonna want much more than 600whp. But if you think you might wanna go for 700whp, get the GT30 internals now. Your longblock would go well with either choice.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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I think this kit is fine to reach 600whp I have one we didn't finish tuning it

and at 14.5 psi we reached 505 whp and 498 t we can easy reach 530 at the

same psi see the dyno sheet
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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u sure thats the same kit? looks a lil laggy for such lil turbos....and yea where did jayz thread go??!!
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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there is one thing that you have to replace in the kit

the two hoses that came from the turbo to the oil pan mine explode
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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yeah this is the APS tuner kit the one that came with external gats
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gmx
I think this kit is fine to reach 600whp I have one we didn't finish tuning it

and at 14.5 psi we reached 505 whp and 498 t we can easy reach 530 at the

same psi see the dyno sheet
What is the rest of your setup, if you dont mind me asking? Also, do you have the newer style with the journal bearings or the older BB style Garretts?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
Hey Cass,

Can you confirm that standard Garrett turbos will bolt up to APS exhaust manifolds? I was under the impression that they could not, but would like to know for sure...
According to George at GTM there are a few options for a direct bolt up swap.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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they are journal bearing turbos

-arise pistons
-pauter rods
-standard cam shafts
-cosworth heads
-Haltech ecu
-880cc inj aam fuel system one walbro in tank

that's all ^_^
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gmx
I think this kit is fine to reach 600whp I have one we didn't finish tuning it

and at 14.5 psi we reached 505 whp and 498 t we can easy reach 530 at the

same psi see the dyno sheet
What psi for the 594whp? pump gas or 110 octane (US measure rating)? Using methanol at all?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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no no 594 hp not on wheel 505whp 594hp on flywheel we use pump gas 97
no meth or anything else
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gmx
no no 594 hp not on wheel 505whp 594hp on flywheel we use pump gas 97
no meth or anything else
ahhhh, we all talk in terms of wheel hp on here....my goal is 600+whp

From what bryan@Z1 tells me the 505whp on a DD is close to the max out on the new turbos. I may be able to get close to 550whp, but that will be pushing the turbos to their limits.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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I haven't tried to go more than 16 psi but I think they can handle 600whp believe me
don't wast your money 600whp is more than you need for a street car ^_^
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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unfortunately that is not what I am hearing from other reliable sources and APS has no firm data on these turbos.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gmx
I haven't tried to go more than 16 psi but I think they can handle 600whp believe me
don't wast your money 600whp is more than you need for a street car ^_^
LOL at your comments about wasting money and telling somebody that 600whp is more than they need. Better turbos are not a waste of money. Furthermore, the shops/experts here do not agree with your assertion that these turbos are capable of 600whp. Cass007 had an inspection performed on these journal bearing turbos by a reputable Garrett dealer that refutes what you are claiming.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clint@Altered
2860RSs are great. But, IMO, swap for Garrett GT2871R. P/N:743347-4. Spool fast and make sick power.
You wont be sorry!
Imma agree 100 percent if my vote means anything.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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loool as I said im not sure what are the limits of these turbos soon I will updates to
cjm twin fuel pump and I will push them to the limit ^_^
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by r0mey
Imma agree 100 percent if my vote means anything.
Why reccommend the smaller ones when you are going to run the GT30's?

You are one of the true been there and done that members on the forum so I always value your opinion. Plus, I believe we use our cars in a very similar manner.

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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Like I said on other thread...option 3.............after one run against someone thats faster (and there is always someone faster) you'll want more lol

SL all choices seem good though

tom
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by thom000001
Like I said on other thread...option 3.............after one run against someone thats faster (and there is always someone faster) you'll want more lol

SL all choices seem good though

tom
+10000 - Those are my thoughts exactly. If I take option 3 and still get walked at least I can be assured its by someone else that has put a ton of effort or $$$$$ into their car. Even if I have some lag, which I didn't mind with my TN kit, I should have the revs and top end to track down anyone giving me a ricer flyby.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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If you don't care about boost response, then just get the GT30s.

I just like my car to spool FAST

-George
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