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Old 03-21-2009, 04:18 PM
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:33 AM
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The real question to ask is do you have the $ to fund a proper build should the original motor let go. If not, then that should be goal #1, before funding a forced induction purchase of any kind. When planning big power on a high compression, originally NA motor, expect the "if" to come sooner than you expect. Always pays to be prepared for the worst vs hoping for the best
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
The real question to ask is do you have the $ to fund a proper build should the original motor let go. If not, then that should be goal #1, before funding a forced induction purchase of any kind. When planning big power on a high compression, originally NA motor, expect the "if" to come sooner than you expect. Always pays to be prepared for the worst vs hoping for the best
Oooooo yea lol. Believe me I thought of it. I'm good. I'm considering building the motor now. But I was talking to the guy that has the shop that will do my car and he said if I go after 450rwhp I don't need to worry about a build. I'll be fine. If I went over 500 then I should think about making sure it was done. I'll be able to build if the motor goes bye bye. I might just have it boosted for summer and save up and then have the motor built over the winter granted it holds up that long. But next saturday were sitting down and going over everything that will be ordered and how much i'm looking at. I'm very excited lol. I believe I'll be the first boosted HR in nyc definatly.. Gonna be nice.
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anytime you introduce forced induction to a car that was never designed for it, you have to worry about what to do when it blows - doesn't matter what car it is (IMHO)

there are more than a few boosted HR's in the area already. Not everyone who mods their car, posts on a forum
Old 03-22-2009, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
anytime you introduce forced induction to a car that was never designed for it, you have to worry about what to do when it blows - doesn't matter what car it is (IMHO)

there are more than a few boosted HR's in the area already. Not everyone who mods their car, posts on a forum
Damnit lol. I never see them tho thats y lol. O well lol.

But yeaaa.. I'm expecting a motor build, or a rebuild, or a buying and building down the road. I'll be prepared. I'm gettin a beater soon just for that reason. And where are these boosted hr's?? I nevvveerrr see any lol. Actually I'm lucky I see any modded HR's period. I dunno if maybe its the area I live in??
Old 03-23-2009, 10:32 AM
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I see the pyramid scheme is working out for you?
Old 03-23-2009, 11:11 AM
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I wouldnt push more than 450whp MAX, but I dont know squat
Old 03-23-2009, 11:51 AM
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^ +1. And only on special occasions for me. I usualy keep the BC off for 380-400WHp.

Best of luck if you want to take one for the team and stay stock block on a daily driver at 500+WHp. I'm not saying that it can't be done or whether or not it is safe because there are way too many variables. If you don't boost from light to light, you may be OK.

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Old 03-23-2009, 12:22 PM
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well with the way shady drives he might be in boost at all times hahaha
Old 04-09-2009, 05:45 PM
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https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...ck-550whp.html

cool threat for the de
Old 04-09-2009, 11:21 PM
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A decent fuel system, managment system and a good tuner. Once again Tuning tuning tuning and tuning.

For the person who said staying in 5th and 6th for long periods of time will blow your motor, hey guess what Tuning.

For the ones who blew their motors making 400whp, please go check with your tuner. VQ motors are strong and to blow one up on low boost, you must be talented.
Old 04-10-2009, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by shadykilla717
Yea your right.. I read up on your who situation. Thats crazy. Dedication tho. Hows everything coming along with yours?? But from your experience.. Do you think I'm better off building the motor?? Or is the 400-450rwhp at w.e psi be a safe thing and nothing to worry about??
450whp seems to be a safe number, or as safe as F/I gets. What I was speaking on is all the incidental costs with doing a build right. If you up HP significantly, now you have to consider a clutch, gauges and install time, EMS (standalone preferred) if you want to have a smooth drive around town and a monster when you hit the pedal hard, injectors, fuel return and a tune to round out the greatest hits list. The costs add up quickly with labor.

The jump in performance from stock to 450whp is very noticable, I would make that leap first and then maybe get a cheap oil consumption block to start your build. That way your car is still on the road while you are building and then you can just make the swap down the road. Just my .
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LOL @ the number chasers...
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Originally Posted by Alberto
LOL @ the number chasers...
Watch them blow..
Old 04-10-2009, 01:30 PM
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:29 AM
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Great thread! Keep it coming HR's! When I get money!! TT will come! lol!
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I'm bumping this thread to add my own experience (in case people in the future search or google for stock HR limits). Experience leads to knowledge. Knowledge is power.

Currently I'm at 503whp , 407wtq. Around 3k miles.

I've seen a few HRs at 530ish whp and their owners were beating on them at that power. Three experienced shops have told me the limit as 540whp. Although I'm not sure if that includes tracking. Probably more of a street limit.

The thing with the HRs is the horsepower to torque trade off is better than the DE. Most people who are around 500whp will only be around 400wtq.

I'm going to assume with slightly stronger internals than the DE that the HRs are safe atleast up to 420wtq for street purposes.

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