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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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I'm going to be going with a single turbo in the future. I don't know how long it will take, but I want to modify it some before with things that I won't have to take off when going FI.

So far I have installed an Injen Super SES exhaust and a Walbro 255. I also plan on picking up a Motordyne plenum spacer and clutch/flywheel before the jump.
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Don't see how that's related. The closest I see is the supporting mods. I know about them. I'm asking if I missed anything that I can do now, that I won't have to take off when I go FI. IE the plenum spacer. It's not a supporting mod for FI, but can be left on and used when going FI. Sort of like how I wouldn't want to spend money on an intake, because I wouldn't need it when I did go turbo.

It did remind me I could go ahead and pick up a wideband and temp gauges though.

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I think the SES exhaust is a poor choice for FI its like 2.25" or less in diameter I measured one once not really Fi friendly. Get a twin plate clutch if you plan on going for bigger power down the road. Test pipes (resignated) should be done or at least hi flow cats. A return fuel system, Haltech/F-con, bigger injectors at least 550cc. You need to set goals or you may end up buying things twice or things you dont need.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 04:50 AM
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run stock clutch as long as possible, proper engine management depending on power goals
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 03Zilverstone
Don't see how that's related. The closest I see is the supporting mods. I know about them. I'm asking if I missed anything that I can do now, that I won't have to take off when I go FI. IE the plenum spacer. It's not a supporting mod for FI, but can be left on and used when going FI. Sort of like how I wouldn't want to spend money on an intake, because I wouldn't need it when I did go turbo.

It did remind me I could go ahead and pick up a wideband and temp gauges though.
One of the fastest members would disagree with you on this. I believe Alberto runs a spacer on his stock plenum.

I think the SES exhaust is a poor choice for FI its like 2.25" or less in diameter I measured one once not really Fi friendly. Get a twin plate clutch if you plan on going for bigger power down the road. Test pipes (resignated) should be done or at least hi flow cats. A return fuel system, Haltech/F-con, bigger injectors at least 550cc. You need to set goals or you may end up buying things twice or things you dont need.
+1 on all of this - a 3" single is what you would want, even if it had a canister and dual tips out the back. The stuff in bold can all be done prior to F/I and is a must to get good power/driveability out of an F/I setup. There are several EMS choices out there to choose from.

I will add that choosing a tuner prior to purchasing a kit and/or supporting mods is always helpful as well. If your tuner isn't familiar with your setup, he may not be able to get the most out of your car. Working with components your tuner is familiar with is always a plus IMO.
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Originally Posted by Cass007
One of the fastest members would disagree with you on this. I believe Alberto runs a spacer on his stock plenum.
How would he disagree with me? A supporting mod is something you need to do to safely run a setup. You don't need a plenum to safely run FI, but you can still run one with FI. Which is what I said in the quoted post.



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+1 on all of this - a 3" single is what you would want, even if it had a canister and dual tips out the back. The stuff in bold can all be done prior to F/I and is a must to get good power/driveability out of an F/I setup. There are several EMS choices out there to choose from.
I plan on sticking with the duals. I will probably run test pipes and a non-resonated x-pipe in place of the resonators when I go turbo, but don't want to put them on before going turbo because of the horrid rasp I'd get. I can't really add injectors yet either, as I would have to get the ECU calibrated for them.

Also I only plan on running 8psi. Later on I may drop down the compression and bump it up a bit, but probably not over 500hp.
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daily driver/drag/road course? theres a whole lot to consider when building your car. from what it sounds like though if your going to stay with that injen exhaust its going to be a stock block build which 8psi would be safe. why not just save up your money for the powerlab kit which comes with injectors that are properly sized, a walbro 255 fuel pump, and a decent ems for the power. but your going to need a clutch for sure. which if your staying stock block the jwt combo will be fine. you will also need a return fuel system you can go with a stage 0 kit from CJM or AAM. other than that youll need gauges air/fuel, boost are most important. hope that answers your question somewhat.

also how do you plan on dropping the compression? if your going with a full engine build the gt35r leaves some breathing room up to 653whp iirc. but when you get to that point the ems and injectors could be a problem. but you should probably get a twin clutch so your whole setup has room to grow.


**edit didnt read your last post sorry**

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Originally Posted by 03Zilverstone
I plan on sticking with the duals. I will probably run test pipes and a non-resonated x-pipe in place of the resonators when I go turbo, but don't want to put them on before going turbo because of the horrid rasp I'd get. I can't really add injectors yet either, as I would have to get the ECU calibrated for them.
You can't run test pipes on a ST set up. If you want a dual exhaust for it, you will need a reverse y-pipe fabbed up to attach to your downpipe. Single exhaust would be the best way to go.
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oil cooler/radiator/thermostat won't change much calibration from a NA setup. make sure you got rims to fit bigger/stickier tires than stock
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Originally Posted by rr_z33
daily driver/drag/road course? theres a whole lot to consider when building your car. from what it sounds like though if your going to stay with that injen exhaust its going to be a stock block build which 8psi would be safe. why not just save up your money for the powerlab kit which comes with injectors that are properly sized, a walbro 255 fuel pump, and a decent ems for the power. but your going to need a clutch for sure. which if your staying stock block the jwt combo will be fine. you will also need a return fuel system you can go with a stage 0 kit from CJM or AAM. other than that youll need gauges air/fuel, boost are most important. hope that answers your question somewhat.

also how do you plan on dropping the compression? if your going with a full engine build the gt35r leaves some breathing room up to 653whp iirc. but when you get to that point the ems and injectors could be a problem. but you should probably get a twin clutch so your whole setup has room to grow.


**edit didnt read your last post sorry**

The car is sort of my daily driver. I ride my bike when I can, but I also have a truck that I can drive. I'm mainly wanting a Turbonetics, since my goals aren't anything out of the ordinary. Trying to keep under $5k for a tuner type kit, as I already have a Walbro and will pick up some DW injectors when the time comes. Still undecided on EMS since I don't know when exactly I'll be doing the jump. I'll probably have Injected Performance do the tuning, as they're fairly close. If I drop compression later on it will just be a general forged rebuild.
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I actually plan on doing a kit similar to the Wilwood that's posted around here.
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