Wow man you are assuming alot of things with that first paragraph. I made my statement because Ive seen a number of people make 600 wheel at 16-18 psi and then run into problems. All kinds of problems from all different shops. So my viewpoint is if you want to run alot of boost and your car is a street car at some point you will run into problems. I'm sorry if you think thats stupid but that just tells me you have yet to have any motor issues. But with that said good luck with your build I will follow it closely

One more note. My best friend has a fully sponsored full-race evo you dont have to tell me about 2.0 blocks. I know about them more than you think. The difference in those applications and ours is THEY COME BOOSTED FROM THE FACTORY.

 

Will be crazy build by crazy tuner...

 

I'm aware that above 600 people have problems. BUT, there are problems with run of the mill builds as well. Your 1st build wasnt that crazy and it went south. You do your best to prepare and then roll the dice it seems.
My build will be nothing special. a turbo kit, built motor with cams, big injectors, CJM stage3 fuel, meth, haltech. Almost identical to yours minus the stroker and EMS.

I was only making an example to 2.0L blocks and how they run much bigger turbos than we do. I'd dont know you , so i'd never assume what you know.

But how is a purpose built FI VQ motor different than a 'boosted from the factory'? I'm sure your buddy's Evo's full race motor is as similar to the factory motor as the NA VQ is to a built FI VQ.

 

Cast iron block.

 

Isn't the RB26DETT made from cast iron too? Just wonder.

 

Yes

 

Thank you.

 

It's hard, and will drive you insane if you try to compare and Evo or Supra turbo system to the typical systems running on the 350Z.

I am sure you've driven or been in a Supra or Evo with a big turbo...even a midsized turbo like a T3 flange GT35. Hit the gas at 2500rpm, and nothing happens. The power band in these machines is so different from the 350Z builds.

If you want uber top end, at the expense of a very unresponsive/dead midrange, then it would be best to do what SP and Injected have done with their massive drag racing turbo setups. Big turbos will make huge power, but lack midrange. Nothing really remarkable in that statement. Both of their cars are fast as hell, but not the great cars to drive on the street daily.

Until more people decide that top-end is better than the awesome midrange of the VQ35, I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of 1000whp builds. Liter for Liter, a 1000whp VQ build should be comparable to about a 600whp in the Evo world, which as you suggested, isn't really that hard to do as long as you understand the pros and cons of the setup, and are willing to accept them.

To me, a 600-700whp is just about perfect. Big midrange, and strong top end, and enough power to go 10'something, but still enjoy the car daily. And without resorting to extra sumps.

 

LOL, I guess its obvious I know my motor is done, huh Sharif

Like everyone else, I wanna get it right the 1st time and just want to pick everyone's brain. I'm already going crazy with all the various experiences on installing all the different turbo kits. Probably shoulda just bought that APS extreme kit Hal was selling and called it a day.

 

Yup. Motor is done. Come get it!

 

Actually his motor was Stock so that would be a NA VQ from a twinscroll 30r to a twinscroll 35r now hes built because hes gonna run a ts 37r and a ts40r next year. So apple to apples his motor in the beginning was just like a NA VQ. And thats my point a NA VQ would not hold 550-600 wheel stock but his evo did in its "factory motor" form. None the less your right my first build was nothing crazy and did go south. I just don't think out platform can handle high boost as some of our 2.0 friends can only a daily driven/street application. That was my point

 

This I agree with 100 percent. My 600 wheel Z would get beat by 2 car lengths every time by my friends twinscroll stock block 35r evo. And this is why we cant compare Z's to other cars. I love my car and they are fun as hell to drive but trying to compare them to something else is just crazy

 

So what are your plans/goals with your car? How often do you plan to drive it?

 

less money on the car and more money buying new furniture. HA! I kid, goodluck with the build

 

No use, my cats will just mess it up anyways

 

i drive it maybe 4-6 times a month with most of that being to the drag strip. 500whp on a dyno dynamics by 5000 rpms on pump no meth is the goal. standard stuff like everyone else wants I suppose.

 

Hey! You told me 500 whp is just about perfect. ... though I do love the midrange for my DD - car never needs to see 6k rpm.

 

It's not always a problem with the build. I take full responsibility for tearing up my rod bearings. It's a long story, but I buried the tachometer until it hit the stop. Lesson learned and we move onward and upward.

 

I hear you terry

 

me too man lol