Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

ACL Bearing Choice Help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:07 AM
  #1  
MR RIZK's Avatar
MR RIZK
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,225
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Default ACL Bearing Choice Help

In the process of having my motor built but there is not alot of local knowledge here about the VQ's so I need to tell the engine builder as much info as I can.

I was wondering which ACL bearing is recomended for FI and typical clearances that are run.

http://www.aclperformance.com.au/Nis...DEBearings.htm

I'm a bit confused as part number #6B2640H shows 3 sizes STD, 0.25, 0.025 so does this come in 3 sizes? Then I would assume there should be 3 part numbers but the web site lists only 1.

Also any recomendations on using standard oil clearance or the + 0.001" Extra oil clearance bearings? if so why?

Michael
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:10 AM
  #2  
Glex25's Avatar
Glex25
Registered User
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,301
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by MR RIZK
In the process of having my motor built but there is not alot of local knowledge here about the VQ's so I need to tell the engine builder as much info as I can.

I was wondering which ACL bearing is recomended for FI and typical clearances that are run.

http://www.aclperformance.com.au/Nis...DEBearings.htm

I'm a bit confused as part number #6B2640H shows 3 sizes STD, 0.25, 0.025 so does this come in 3 sizes? Then I would assume there should be 3 part numbers but the web site lists only 1.

Also any recomendations on using standard oil clearance or the + 0.001" Extra oil clearance bearings? if so why?

Michael
I'm in the same boat as you and have decided to just hold off and let the machine shop order the bearings once the gap (Clearance?) size is known.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:31 AM
  #3  
thom000001's Avatar
thom000001
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,891
Likes: 1
From: Chicago
Default

That is the proper way to do it.

Yes there are different sizes due to diffrent machining tolerances, and engine use.

I'd assume, tighter gap would mean higher oil pressures.

tom

Originally Posted by Glex25
I'm in the same boat as you and have decided to just hold off and let the machine shop order the bearings once the gap (Clearance?) size is known.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:48 PM
  #4  
streetzlegend's Avatar
streetzlegend
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 586
Likes: 1
From: Miami FL
Default

Well, you cant just pick a bearing. You have to measure the journals on your crank and see if they are still within factory specs as per the FSM. Is it a brand new crank? Depending on how your measurements are will depend on how much thicker you need them to be. I went with the Standard size ACL because my crank journals both main and rod were all within spec. my part numbers were (6B2640H, and 4M2633H)
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 04:02 PM
  #5  
snobes's Avatar
snobes
New Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 160
Likes: 2
From: Tasmania Aust.
Default

sorry to high jack your thread but i thought id just let people know the ACL has been having some finacial troubles lately, they were placed into administration and now i think are being liquidated. They are currently still manufacturing though which is good news.
ACL is only a small company of about 180 located In Tasmania Australia.

So please people buy their bearings

Back on topic, yes what streetzlegend said you wont know what to get till the motor is pulled apart.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 04:22 PM
  #6  
MR RIZK's Avatar
MR RIZK
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,225
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Default

I understand that the journals need to linished to match the size requirement. But what i didn't understand as per my first post was that part number 6B2640H is listed in 3 sizes. Is this true or am I miss understanding the info on the website. Basically when I order I would say #6B2640H please in size 0.025 etc

It is a used crank since out of a used motor that I'm building so I should be able to measure them now to find out which would suit.

Also just a general consensus for the + 0.001" Extra oil clearance option

Michael
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:34 PM
  #7  
streetzlegend's Avatar
streetzlegend
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 586
Likes: 1
From: Miami FL
Default

Originally Posted by MR RIZK
I understand that the journals need to linished to match the size requirement. But what i didn't understand as per my first post was that part number 6B2640H is listed in 3 sizes. Is this true or am I miss understanding the info on the website. Basically when I order I would say #6B2640H please in size 0.025 etc

It is a used crank since out of a used motor that I'm building so I should be able to measure them now to find out which would suit.

Also just a general consensus for the + 0.001" Extra oil clearance option

Michael
I think you are misinterpreting the website, there are two size's on there. the 6B2640H, and the 6B2640HX. The same goes for the main bearings 4M2633H vs. 4M2633HX. Out of the two options the ones ending with X are the + 0.001". The ones without the X are the standard size.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:31 PM
  #8  
snobes's Avatar
snobes
New Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 160
Likes: 2
From: Tasmania Aust.
Default

Originally Posted by MR RIZK
Basically when I order I would say #6B2640H please in size 0.025 etc
Michael
Yep thats right, normaly the bigger sizes are for when you grind the crankshaft

Going with the extra thou of oil clearance will mean more oil to cool the bearing and more of a buffer between the two surfaces, this will also casue lower oil pressure and would normally be backed up by a high performance oil pump.

I'm no expert with only a couple of engines (old fords) experience so please someone correct me if im not explaining this right
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 05:53 AM
  #9  
Guru's Avatar
Guru
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: Novi, MI
Default

Originally Posted by streetzlegend
I think you are misinterpreting the website, there are two size's on there. the 6B2640H, and the 6B2640HX. The same goes for the main bearings 4M2633H vs. 4M2633HX. Out of the two options the ones ending with X are the + 0.001". The ones without the X are the standard size.
Actually the H and HX are same size. Just the HX have a bit larger bore for the oil passages. It allows for a bit more oil to reach the bearings. You always order standard sizes (H or HX) for a straight rebuild. and measure it out. I usually coat the ones that have a bit too much clearance to bring them all into perfect spec. Usually just the mains. The rods almost always turn out perfect with just a set of standards.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Obadabot
Maintenance & Repair
16
Jun 18, 2023 11:31 PM
MicVelo
2003-2009 Nissan 350Z
34
May 30, 2017 03:28 PM
EnjukuRacing
Engine
0
Sep 30, 2015 06:55 AM
samansharif
Brakes & Suspension
1
Sep 25, 2015 12:31 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:06 AM.