i originally bought a used turbonetics kit and the pipe that connects to the wastegate was cracked so i can see someone losing a wastegate due to a cracked t-netics pipe, although t-netics did warranty the pipe through the original buyer..i sold the kit before even putting it on though because basically all i heard about it was bad and i didnt wanna deal with the problems..

 

When you order the kit they ask if you want a 6 psi wategate spring or 8psi. I choose the 8. There was nothing wrong with the car or tune. I beat on it all summer. The main reason I did not post my findings in the begining is cause I was embarrassed that I sold one kit to buy another that did almost the same. Short story, Dumped a bunch of money in the powerlab kit and it did not meet my expectations. And I highly dough this turbo will hit the 650whp mark like there web site says. GT37 would no problem but not a single gt35r. The dyno sheet speaks for itself. And It's not about the whp # you have on paper it's how the car drives. The tune was great.

 

Thanks Chef,

 

lol...did you just forget to READ the whole part where i showed you a dyno sheet that Speaks for itself, not from the intense website but from your same tuner, injected hitting 453 dd whp at 10 psi.... yes It speaks for itself.We also have dynos from jersey chicago, FL.......again...its weird that you go to 12psi on a true gt35r and still not break 12 psi....thats an issue, maybe you have a leak or something, or some heavy restriction somewhere, that i am sure isnt part of the kit due the known size of piping.

 

We maxed that motor out. There were no boost leaks. I do have to say the kit held boost way better then the TN kit. The haltech EBC works great at keeping boost were you want it. The boost would stay at 10psi till red line. I was going to post some haltech log traces I had to prove how good it spools and holds boost. But since I have sold the car and deleted all my haltech files.

I forgot I had this sheet this my old TN kit 8psi 50/50 water/meth tuned with a utec different tuner. And different dyno. You can tell from the other sheet the haltech does a better job and has a better tune. And used no meth with haltech tune.
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yeah dood i understand, i see what you are saying, and i am not calling you a lier or anything = i wasnt there when the dyno took place, but you can see the discrepancies here, i mean did you saw before the numbers injected achived with the kit, what exaust are you running?, it still sounds more like you have the boost levels mixed up then(its possible you still got a 6lb spring there), its too bad you dont have your car still to double check.... again... i have shown you are non intense dynosheets for those doubters (actually your same tuner) with Totally different numbers (453whp @ 10 psi) at the same boost levels and same ems.
https://my350z.com/forum/6801134-post10.html
This car https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...lab-gt35r.html even using a more restrictive exhaust 2.5" is making 530whp at 14 psi... if you had 12psi and not reaching 400whp even if its true dd the numbres dont match...(DD to Dj should be about 10-12% difference)
Also your TN numbers dont match if you are saying you are making 390whp on a tn kit at 10psi.... that would be DJ numbers cause otherwise your s Tn is making well over 420whp at 10psi.... anybody that has been here 5 years and remember past dynosheets know this.


More INDEPENDANT examples here:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...yno-video.html 415whp @8 psi

377whp @ uneven ~7psi https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...lab-kit-6.html

8psi http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...fabiandyno.jpg

4PSI - 360whp/ 333TQ https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...fi-tunned.html

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...r-numbers.html 440-whp ~9psi..matches well to hals numbers

 

I think I know how much boost I was running. I'm not one of those guys who drop there car off at a shop to get work done. Everything that was every put on my car was done by me. Everything... 10psi both kits 3" custom single exhaust on both kits. If Hal chims in, he can confirm it was tuned at 10psi. Not all cars are going to have the same power at the same boost levels.

 

This is a good comparo, kit to kit, on the same car and dyno. Thanks for sharing. No question PowerLab is the better of the two, but still a nice comparison.

 

if i had $ like that i would def go PL. However on my budget...... TN.

 

I don't know about guys out there dealing with Turbonetics kit, me, I have the new version relocation wastegate kit, ball bearing oil and water cooler turbocharged, producing 427 hp on a mustang dyno tuned at Japtrix by (Roger) at only( 9.7 ) psi let say 10, safe_, not safe for the stock bottom end, but a safe tune, timing was very low, I think he decreased even more timing to get it to 422 hp . I'll post my dyno sheet later

-I'm getting to the next step in two weeks (forged built bottom end), and see what it's going to be able to do at 16 -18 boost psi.

 

This is the point where you should stop while you are still ahead with the T-netics kit. It is great kit for a stock block setup and that's all it was ever meant to be. The piping will be too small at those higher boost levels.

 

thats because tn threads turn into a shitstorm really fast. why? well when you talk about a poorly developed kit that gets pushed like coke to babies (articles, street praise etc) people get pissy. IMHO I think its good that people get pissy about the TN kit, this fact saved/ will save many people serious problems, and a lot of money.

 

running very low timing doesnt mean its safe. hp doesnt kill the stock motor, torque does. 427whp on a mustang dyno at 10 psi is reading pretty high, unless he adjusted the power @ 50 numbers.

 

^^^ +1...of course not all caars make the same power, many facotrs on mods and tuning...and i think i showed that in my previous post, but there is a clear consistency. Again everybody that has been here for a while knows what to expect at 10psi on a TN kit and its in the 380-390 range, same asi showed with PL, all the numbers are ~ consistant in the ball park, from different dynos, different locations..

 

So who are all these people that are cracking APS manifolds? Can you show me even ONE thread in which a person posted that they cracked the APS manifold? I know A LOT of people who have had or currently have APS TT kits and I haven't heard of one cracked turbo manifold. Is it possible, yes. Especially if you don't let them warm up before you beat on the car, but common? Definitely not.

Are you thinking of Power Enterprise maybe? There were multiple cases of cracked manifolds with their early kits.

 

off the top of my head, our good buddy Blackbird cracked his APS manifold (and dumped his kit) and pipni was looking for new manifolds. Hal or Sharif, etc could prolly chime in with other people. The problem is that APS doesnt really support the US market. The take home is I'd be way more worried about a cracked cast irreplaceable APS manifold than I would about a cracked, but fixable pipe.

Other companies like greddy also have had their share of cracked manifolds as well, but again, they can be replaced rather easily.

 

Ok, so you really only know of a couple of people whom have had issues. You made it sound like pretty much everyone with an APS kit has cracked a manifold. Your post was flat out wrong. A search turns up NOTHING in the way of thread concerning APS manifolds cracking.

Furthermore, all you need to do to get a replacement manifold is contact an APS dealer and they can source the part from APS. I know this because a close friend of mine with the APS ST kit needed a part that broke and he went through a local APS dealer recently.

BTW - most cracks in cast manifolds can be repaired by a good welder.

 

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No bro , I like to enjoy the weekend with my ladies , my fairlady and my lovely ladies, so 100 additional whp are not bad at all, for those saturday's night.

- but yeah I know what your trying to say with that a should stop!!

-by the way I do have a costum 3" down to my 3" exhaust, that's why I had to keep the OEM manifolds, for space.turbonetics