Longevity of full builds, the good the bad
12-15-2009, 11:53 AM
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06 Track
Built engine 2 years old.
520 whp and 510 Tq at 14 PSI (on Sharif's Dyno)
21,000 on built motor...30,500 on car
Engine originally built Z1 motorsports and then
sent directly to Forged Performance to be to be set up
properly and have F-Con installed and tuned.
No real problems and change oil every 1000 miles with Pennzoil 15w-50
and a Canton long oil filter.
Running oil cooler, catch can, and other small mods.
Built engine 2 years old.
520 whp and 510 Tq at 14 PSI (on Sharif's Dyno)
21,000 on built motor...30,500 on car
Engine originally built Z1 motorsports and then
sent directly to Forged Performance to be to be set up
properly and have F-Con installed and tuned.
No real problems and change oil every 1000 miles with Pennzoil 15w-50
and a Canton long oil filter.
Running oil cooler, catch can, and other small mods.
12-15-2009, 08:26 PM
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I suppose if I get cams I might as well get some headwork also
12-16-2009, 06:11 AM
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12-16-2009, 06:49 AM
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Read this, i'm in the process of posting my story over here too. Namely the beginning and the end. http://g35driver.com/forums/forced-i...ta-turbos.html
12-16-2009, 07:08 AM
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Read this, i'm in the process of posting my story over here too. Namely the beginning and the end. http://g35driver.com/forums/forced-i...ta-turbos.html
12-16-2009, 03:45 PM
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So this thread got me thinking I don't want my local shop doing such high level work. I'm going for the typical TT setup, either Greddy or APS Xtreme, 600-650rwhp for a daily driver. Catch 22: I'm in Alaska, and I don't think there are any shops in the giant state who really specialize in this. Does anyone have a recommendation for a shop located in the Northwest? If all else fails, Forged Performance seems to be a good And looks like I should expect 20-30k on this whole project, sound about right?
12-16-2009, 04:15 PM
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So this thread got me thinking I don't want my local shop doing such high level work. I'm going for the typical TT setup, either Greddy or APS Xtreme, 600-650rwhp for a daily driver. Catch 22: I'm in Alaska, and I don't think there are any shops in the giant state who really specialize in this. Does anyone have a recommendation for a shop located in the Northwest? If all else fails, Forged Performance seems to be a good And looks like I should expect 20-30k on this whole project, sound about right?
12-16-2009, 04:53 PM
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To a degree, ya. But I also have to get the car to and from the shop, so if there's someplace in WA or close by, it be way easier for me to barge it down from AK and just road trip from there. Btw thanks for taking time to answer
12-16-2009, 06:59 PM
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If I were you I'd get a GTM turn key kit and GTM long block delivered to your local shop. That way your local shop doesn't have to deal with tuning or engine building, which are the two things that can and will go wrong in the worst way in the wrong hands.
02-17-2010, 07:51 PM
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I have a fully built VQ35DE sleeved with ported heads, which did over 1000 pulls on the dyno in a one year span, with absolutely no issues but only oil changes. No overheating issues and no lifted heads, never changed the gaskets, ever.
I was following Vinny very closely all through the rebuilt process and I know why he did not have overheating issues plaguing his built motors. Simple, he dealt with the problem right at the root and not the usual band-aid fixes.
The technology is so advanced today that engine builders have alternatives to replacing the sleeves. And, if you still decide to resleeve, make certain that the engine builder knows what he is doing. Most resleeving issues are always caused by inexperience builders.
In modifying an internal combustion, one must always remember that the strongest link is only as strong as its weakest link.
When you strengthen a part a component, simultaneously you are in fact creating a weak link somewhere along the chain.
Unless the engine builder has personally built a VQ35DE, from ground up, and 6.6 sec in a quarter mile, as the end result; they are not anywhere near Vinny10’s league.
Doug that is so untrue, where did pick up those rumors? It is amazing why some people have the need to resort to spreading rumors.
There is more than one big built, the difference with Rocky's zee and mine are Rocky's has the JWT 850 and a rollcage. Infact, if I am not mistaken he has a stage II built motor and mine is a stage III, there were more stage III/s out there but mostly used for racing. We lost one stage III, only because the driver totaled the car in competition.
Rocky started with a stage I, if I am not mistaken and he has since upgraded to the stage II and added a rollcage. Without the rollcage Rocky’s mighty VQ would not be allowed on any track after the first run.
I find you to be a stand up guy and you have been well schooled in internal combustion engines. I am confident that if you heard from both sides of the field you will realize how wrong you are.
Hell if I had to spend my cash on rebuilding my VQ and the system failed due to the engine builder’s oversight, believe you me the cult mentally would not hold my hot jets, so to speak…LOL
Hope to catch up with you soon, doug.
G
I was following Vinny very closely all through the rebuilt process and I know why he did not have overheating issues plaguing his built motors. Simple, he dealt with the problem right at the root and not the usual band-aid fixes.
The technology is so advanced today that engine builders have alternatives to replacing the sleeves. And, if you still decide to resleeve, make certain that the engine builder knows what he is doing. Most resleeving issues are always caused by inexperience builders.
In modifying an internal combustion, one must always remember that the strongest link is only as strong as its weakest link.
When you strengthen a part a component, simultaneously you are in fact creating a weak link somewhere along the chain.
Unless the engine builder has personally built a VQ35DE, from ground up, and 6.6 sec in a quarter mile, as the end result; they are not anywhere near Vinny10’s league.
VTR has a clult following.. if anything good or bad is going on in that shop you will never know... as far as i know they only have 1 big build.. and thats that Police Officer guy and it 'appears' he has been through two motors.. last time it got called out.. it was covered up.. anyway.. take VTR for what it is..
There is more than one big built, the difference with Rocky's zee and mine are Rocky's has the JWT 850 and a rollcage. Infact, if I am not mistaken he has a stage II built motor and mine is a stage III, there were more stage III/s out there but mostly used for racing. We lost one stage III, only because the driver totaled the car in competition.
Rocky started with a stage I, if I am not mistaken and he has since upgraded to the stage II and added a rollcage. Without the rollcage Rocky’s mighty VQ would not be allowed on any track after the first run.
I find you to be a stand up guy and you have been well schooled in internal combustion engines. I am confident that if you heard from both sides of the field you will realize how wrong you are.
Hell if I had to spend my cash on rebuilding my VQ and the system failed due to the engine builder’s oversight, believe you me the cult mentally would not hold my hot jets, so to speak…LOL
Hope to catch up with you soon, doug.
G
02-18-2010, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zzzz
I have a fully built VQ35DE sleeved with ported heads, which did over 1000 pulls on the dyno in a one year span, with absolutely no issues but only oil changes. No overheating issues and no lifted heads, never changed the gaskets, ever.
What power levels?
How hard do you drive?
If you say hard, prove it
Otherwise you sound like another guy with a sleeved block who never races/rags his car or runs it at high boost and claims he has the secret to success. Sorry seen too many of those (cough:GTM:cough) in my day to believe it.
