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Old 11-10-2003, 10:25 AM
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Here are some pics of the front end. This car has a carbon fiber front clip.


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When it is up on a lift again I will get the under shot.
Old 11-10-2003, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Forced
From your stock pump, into the FMU, then out of the FMU into the inline pump and up to the motor. No return line to the tank. The fuel pressure is not adjustable, it is increased by the FMU (I will have to check on the ratio of the FMU). If it is for example a 12:1, then for every 1 psi of boost, fuel pressure will increase by 12 psi. I will more info tomorrow.
Having the FMU before the pump and the engine I don't see how you are controlling the FP without playing with the voltage to the pump.

Hope you can post some pics of this FMU. Never seen a mechanical one without a return line to the tank. Almost sounds like you are adjusting volume vice pressure which is not a good thing.
Old 11-10-2003, 10:49 AM
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It looks like the hood, ft bumper and lip are carbon fiber??? You guys can have the carbon fiber, personally, just give me dependable hp !
Old 11-10-2003, 11:09 AM
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I am looking at the fuel diagram out of the instructions that I will post as soon as it is signed off. Basically the FMU is teed into the system as well as the new inline pump. Once you guys see it, it will make more sense. The car is a customers, so the carbon fiber was all him.
Old 11-10-2003, 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Forced
I am looking at the fuel diagram out of the instructions that I will post as soon as it is signed off. Basically the FMU is teed into the system as well as the new inline pump. Once you guys see it, it will make more sense. The car is a customers, so the carbon fiber was all him.
Thanks Steve, my head was hurting trying to think of way it would work.

Always open to seeing a new way of doing things.
Old 11-10-2003, 04:22 PM
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Ooooh intercooler good. me want..yummmmm! hehe
Seriously though, very cool. More pics, more info, more everything.

Videos too (then I'll stop hounding you)
-Dana
Old 11-10-2003, 05:35 PM
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Thats a very nice looking front end!
Old 11-10-2003, 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by zland
It looks like the hood, ft bumper and lip are carbon fiber??? You guys can have the carbon fiber, personally, just give me dependable hp !


I'm sure everyone wants a dependable engine Zland. We've heard about a hundred posts of you talking about it. We ask Steve for pics and the first thing you do when he does is complain about the CF?? What does the CF have to do with this thread or Vortech? So what if the demo car had CF on it. If you really want a dependable ride don't touch the engine! Any mod that increases hp substantially will shorten the life of your engine period. It's just something everyone knows. Just seems like you want the best of both worlds.

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Old 11-10-2003, 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by Yielar
I'm sure everyone wants a dependable engine Zland. We've heard about a hundred posts of you talking about it. We ask Steve for pics and the first thing you do when he does is complain about the CF?? What does the CF have to do with this thread or Vortech? So what if the demo car had CF on it. If you really want a dependable ride don't touch the engine! Any mod that increases hp substantially will shorten the life of your engine period. It's just something everyone knows. Just seems like you want the best of both worlds.
Sorry if I am annoying you Yielar. Enjoy the thread, dont worry too much about my opinions, it is just that, one guys opinions.
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Here are some video's of the car. The first is at startup and the second is after the car warmed up and the idle came down.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...50z/350z_1.wmv
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http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...50z/350z_2.wmv
Old 11-11-2003, 11:08 AM
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Great! in the second clip...is that high pitch chirp like sound the belts?

You have to rev that sucker a few times so we can hear the sound and the Bypass Valve!

Thanks again, hoping you can shed some light on that sound, is it really that loud?

-Dana
Old 11-11-2003, 11:36 AM
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I was actually thinking how quiet it was when you listen to an ATI next to it!! I doubt you can even hear it when the hood is closed?

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the filter on the supercharger fir? Wouldn't it be better if it was sucking cooler air from in the front of the car? I assume the intercooler is there, but there has to be some room up there?
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Any true rear wheel dyno's yet? How does it feel? Would really like to know considering I am planning on this or a TT setup!
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I'm interested in seeing a dyno graph as well.
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me like the price and rep.............
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Old 11-12-2003, 09:14 AM
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Default Dyno Results!

Here is a dyno print out of the 350Z. It is a pdf file. I know you are going to ask why the number is so low, but we went over this before. Look at the initial run, then the new run and check out the percentage increase. Let me know what you guys think.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/.../350z_dyno.pdf
Old 11-12-2003, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Dyno Results!

Originally posted by Forced
Let me know what you guys think.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/.../350z_dyno.pdf
Forced, it's difficult to interpret the graphs b/c the whole thing is in black and white . . . not sure which is baseline and which is after the Vortech supercharger install.

But, regardless of how I interpret the graphs, it seems that the baseline (no supercharger) has greater HP and torque either up until 5230 rpm or after 5230 rpm. Can you clarify which it is and why? It would seem logical that as the rpms increase, the supercharger will make gradually more boost, and assuming proper fuel delivery, should make more power. So the supercharger makes LESS power until 5230 rpm?
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Forced:

I must be reading it wrong, your baseline run is only 190hp/183 torque? Most baselines are at least 232hp on dynos I have seen.

Assuming the baselines is very low, I am assuming the 300hp/259 torque run with SC is low as well. Can you explain why this is so or the correct way to read this data.

Thanks, Jeff - zland
Old 11-12-2003, 09:46 AM
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yes something is not right.. u sure this is a z and not an rx8
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I been informed Vortech's dyno has always read low readings.


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