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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CuztompartZ
I think most of your 60 foots are dependent on flywheel/clutch weight. With the twin you have lost all you momentum off the line and probably why it is bogging down.
Let me know if I can help in your clutch selection, There are plenty of options with the DXD kits.
That could be a possibility too. I'll throw on my WOTbox two step and probably make one more trip to the track in the next couple months on this clutch and hopefully it holds (seems to only slip on highway pulls). After that I'll be looking @ other options. Thanks!
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
yawn Alberto. Noone questioned Bri's drag skills so you can get off his dick.

I've gone 1.69 with a 3000rpm launch with my supercharger. So its nothing special.

Plus tire height has to do with trq multiplication not traction. He obviously doesn't have enough trq at his launch to keep from bogging (which is why he is sugggesting going to a 2-step)
Like I said, I bogged the same with this clutch on my old 26in tires and those were the same tires that I was pulling 1.5s on with the JWT clutch/flywheel with a lot less torque.

The tire height is NOT the issue. I have plenty of torque to effectively use the gear ratio that the 28in tires provide. I just might need to be in boost to apply that torque quickly since I have a clutch that doesn't slip a little like my JWT did.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I dont have as much drag experience on my carbon clutch as Brian, but I understand his point about the clutches being finicky on the launch (certainly more than typical materials), as I have also experienced. Although on my 3rd launch ever on the triple I nailed a 1.67 Doable, but tougher no doubt.
Hey Bert, you ever going to get back to the track with that beast??? I wanna see some 10s.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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My car was broken into over 1 month ago and is STILL not back to me.

Without knowing the longevity of the setup I DO have plans to attempt some legit times this fall. I acquired another track spare so I plan on putting skinnies on to eliminate the WOT wobble I have with the bias/radial setup. Its literally a set of skinnies away from a trip to the track.

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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
My car was broken into over 1 month ago and is STILL not back to me.
That sucks, what kind of damage did the bastards do?
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by djamps
Does anyone ever run with a stock flywheel with a 6-puck or other single disk? I feel like my 13 lb flywheel is robbing a$$loads of TQ off the line.
It is...

The DXD Flywheel for the Z/G is a bit lighter than the stock unit, Solid billet steel and won't wear out like the stock DMF.

The other great thing is the trans won't rattle like a trash can full of marbles with it!
DXD Billet Flywheel
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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sounds to me like you're a kind of a noob who just needs more seat time to learn how to drive.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
sounds to me like you're a kind of a noob who just needs more seat time to learn how to drive.
lol, Neal, you troll.

When are we lining up the Volvo and the Max? I need to show you the scratch on my rear bumper.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Like I said, I bogged the same with this clutch on my old 26in tires and those were the same tires that I was pulling 1.5s on with the JWT clutch/flywheel with a lot less torque.

The tire height is NOT the issue. I have plenty of torque to effectively use the gear ratio that the 28in tires provide. I just might need to be in boost to apply that torque quickly since I have a clutch that doesn't slip a little like my JWT did.
actually......you don't have enough torque (on the motor alone)......that's the problem. Just revving and dumping or slipping a turbo car won't get it done as there is no load on the motor and it's not producing power before you launch. You are dependant upon your turbo(s) being spooled up to make lots of torque...and that isn't happening on a regular launch. With a 2-step, you you'll be able to get the turbo(s) spooled up and you'll be able to produce your full power/torque right away. So, before you give up on your clutch, install your WOTbox and give it another shot!
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
actually......you don't have enough torque (on the motor alone)......that's the problem. Just revving and dumping or slipping a turbo car won't get it done as there is no load on the motor and it's not producing power before you launch. You are dependant upon your turbo(s) being spooled up to make lots of torque...and that isn't happening on a regular launch. With a 2-step, you you'll be able to get the turbo(s) spooled up and you'll be able to produce your full power/torque right away. So, before you give up on your clutch, install your WOTbox and give it another shot!
Isn't that exactly what i was already saying (and what I plan on doing)? The JWT slipped a little on launch and allowed me to get into boost quicker, thus the fantastic launches. The twin carbon does not slip AT ALL on launch.

I'm giving up on this clutch because it slips on highway pulls, not because of it's on track performance.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Isn't that exactly what i was already saying (and what I plan on doing)? The JWT slipped a little on launch and allowed me to get into boost quicker, thus the fantastic launches. The twin carbon does not slip AT ALL on launch.

I'm giving up on this clutch because it slips on highway pulls, not because of it's on track performance.
how many miles did you get on the twin disc clutch?
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nomyth46
how many miles did you get on the twin disc clutch?
I think it's been in there for about 20-25K miles. I can't remember the exact mileage that I put it in.

These are not normal miles though. I don't daily drive my Z so when it's getting miles on it, it's getting beat on pretty good. It's been 4 seasons with this clutch with LOTS of trips to the drag strip.

I don't know what the deal with it is though. It doesn't slip like a worn out clutch would, so I don't think it's worn. I think I'm just ready for a change.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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my 2 cents


stay away from os giken if you want streetable. It engages harsh as hell. Great holding force for power, but sucks in traffic and is hard to launch (for me, i can't slip it at all to make it smooth).
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