How many motors blown due to Procharger?
11-24-2003, 11:46 AM
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I apologize too...I made the comment in fun and was not trying to offend anyone
But anyone who remembers the "I make draw" guy , would have gotten a chuckle out of that one..
I also would like to add that I installed the ATI kit myself and have no problems yet...But I am very careful now that I see all this going on..Plus I am running the FMU at stock settings for safety..My friend got his tuned and blew his engine the next day...And he is a very careful driver, so there is definitely something that is going wrong with these kits...
But anyone who remembers the "I make draw" guy , would have gotten a chuckle out of that one..I also would like to add that I installed the ATI kit myself and have no problems yet...But I am very careful now that I see all this going on..Plus I am running the FMU at stock settings for safety..My friend got his tuned and blew his engine the next day...And he is a very careful driver, so there is definitely something that is going wrong with these kits...
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11-24-2003, 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by daking350
My friend got his tuned and blew his engine the next day...And he is a very careful driver, so there is definitely something that is going wrong with these kits...
My friend got his tuned and blew his engine the next day...And he is a very careful driver, so there is definitely something that is going wrong with these kits...
11-24-2003, 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by jcv
Ah but Greddy didn't sell the kit before its time. Evidently, the ATI is for slow careful driving with limited boost duration? Glad no one's roadracing with this system! These findings must really thrill owners who already bought the system and some of the installers. And evidently this kit is not really a "bolt on" but an R&D project.
Ah but Greddy didn't sell the kit before its time. Evidently, the ATI is for slow careful driving with limited boost duration? Glad no one's roadracing with this system! These findings must really thrill owners who already bought the system and some of the installers. And evidently this kit is not really a "bolt on" but an R&D project.
I for one of those that already bought the kit with the understanding from both ATI and the installer that this a safe bolt on as long as I don't mess with it am horrified
I and my authorized installer both were never informed that any problem existed before or now with the so called complete kit 
Why after it has been out for over 3 months do they now tell us albeit by other then proper means that their complete kit is really not complete and to use it means to risk total failure 
11-24-2003, 06:52 PM
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up front is when you tell people about problems with a kit before you sell it to them.
i'm trying to keep costs down on reverse-engineering this $5000 piece of crap........thats not what i signed up for, but it sounds like you're happy with it
Have you blown up your engine EJ? What kind of reverse engineering are you trying to do? Are you saying that since you (and others too including me) are looking to add A/F gauges, timing devices, better FMU's, Wideband O2 meters ect., that this means your are "reverse engineering?
If that is your definition of it, then I'd say it is flawed. Are you "reverse engineering" your car by adding a SC, CAI, Body kit, Wheels, tires etc??? No, you are simply making it a better car than the one you bought from Nissan.
By the same token, you purchased a kit that works just fine as long as it is installed and used appropriately. Just because you are adding things to in afterwards doesn't amount to reverse engineering. It's just "modding" your SC to make it better/safer.
My friend got his tuned and blew his engine the next day...And he is a very careful driver, so there is definitely something that is going wrong with these kits...
If you wanna talk about crying, what about all the PM's and emails you were sending me when you were upset that my Procharger shipped out before yours?......"but i paid for mine first, i don't understand " *sniffle*
11-24-2003, 07:26 PM
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look, people have different experiences...
your single experience, as a whole is, is not absolutely correct.
goes both ways...
some people have no problems
some have had problems
some are having problems
some have worked around problems
could ati have done better? yes, just look at vortech's support here
I think the people having doubts are ok with the people who are happy.
Why can't you happy people let them vent/explore?
I've seen this happen many times:
Miata owners complaining about low dynos,
then RX8 owners complaining about low dynos.
Other owners saying there's no problem. They like
everything as is, your this, that...
In each case, the seller recognized an issue and offered
corrective measures. Did the nay sayers refuse the free cash
and extra service?
If ATI ever changes the kit to add timing, will you happy people
refuse it?
Dr. Bonz, why are you now ordering the J&S Knock Sensor if
there's nothing wrong with your kit? It does NOT advance timing!
It does not make you faster.
sometimes the worried folk get heat and emotional but they are,
in their way, just asking for help. telling them you don't have an
issue, fine. That's all the help you need to give...
ps. I'm happy with my ATI now...
your single experience, as a whole is, is not absolutely correct.
goes both ways...
some people have no problems
some have had problems
some are having problems
some have worked around problems
could ati have done better? yes, just look at vortech's support here
I think the people having doubts are ok with the people who are happy.
Why can't you happy people let them vent/explore?
I've seen this happen many times:
Miata owners complaining about low dynos,
then RX8 owners complaining about low dynos.
Other owners saying there's no problem. They like
everything as is, your this, that...
In each case, the seller recognized an issue and offered
corrective measures. Did the nay sayers refuse the free cash
and extra service?
If ATI ever changes the kit to add timing, will you happy people
refuse it?
Dr. Bonz, why are you now ordering the J&S Knock Sensor if
there's nothing wrong with your kit? It does NOT advance timing!
It does not make you faster.
sometimes the worried folk get heat and emotional but they are,
in their way, just asking for help. telling them you don't have an
issue, fine. That's all the help you need to give...
ps. I'm happy with my ATI now...
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11-24-2003, 07:31 PM
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I am starting a seperate thread to see if we can get a count on how many procharged Z's are out there..https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=51286
11-24-2003, 10:59 PM
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Come on people, we used to get along so well. Look at us, we're bickering at each other like a bunch of old women.
Come on people, we used to get along so well.
Look at us, we're bickering at each other like a bunch of old women.
11-25-2003, 03:53 AM
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Need: I'm getting this stuff, as I said above, as a "mod" for my SC so I can ride safe. I am having NO issues with my Procharger at all.
EJ: I call PEACE with you. Prozac is now in and taking effect.
Jesse: EHHHH? WHAT WAS THAT? LET ME TURN UP MY HEARING AID!!!
Ravez: Is "***in" a verb or an adjective?
EJ: I call PEACE with you. Prozac is now in and taking effect.
Jesse: EHHHH? WHAT WAS THAT? LET ME TURN UP MY HEARING AID!!!
Ravez: Is "***in" a verb or an adjective?
11-25-2003, 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
calm down little girls.........
don't want to have to close this thread or anything.
Victor
calm down little girls.........
don't want to have to close this thread or anything.
Victor
11-25-2003, 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by N4Spd
some people have no problems
some have had problems
some are having problems
some have worked around problems
some people have no problems
some have had problems
some are having problems
some have worked around problems
11-25-2003, 11:36 AM
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Outside observer, owner of a NA Z3 observes:
I can run the **** out of NA Z# all day and all night.
I would have to cautiously drive, and not push to hard, a FI Z3.
NA for me. I belive this is what Nissan intended for the Z3 and the VQ35.
I can run the **** out of NA Z# all day and all night.
I would have to cautiously drive, and not push to hard, a FI Z3.
NA for me. I belive this is what Nissan intended for the Z3 and the VQ35.
11-25-2003, 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by mydogscool
Outside observer, owner of a NA Z3 observes:
I can run the **** out of NA Z# all day and all night.
I would have to cautiously drive, and not push to hard, a FI Z3.
NA for me. I belive this is what Nissan intended for the Z3 and the VQ35.
Outside observer, owner of a NA Z3 observes:
I can run the **** out of NA Z# all day and all night.
I would have to cautiously drive, and not push to hard, a FI Z3.
NA for me. I belive this is what Nissan intended for the Z3 and the VQ35.
Same thing, I cannot confirm hp gain of a NA product until it is dyno'ed
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