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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
i actually started laughing out loud!!!
I hate the losers that chirp about spelling and punctuation....but you should be to able to type at a 5th grade level if you are hanging out in chat forums.
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So I am so lost here could someone explain this to me, two of the posters in the thread are the same guy He had a river of oil coming out the tail pipe of his car but kept driving it until the motor blew then blamed STS for building a poor kit. Sorry to hear about the blown engine , I am just having a hard time figuring out what the problem is/was with the way it was written.
I'm sub 5th grade huh?
Ur probably right, let he who hath perfect grammar cast the 1st stone!
Quote: You should be to able to
Quote: so I am so
Can u tell me where I said I drove the car AFTER I saw oil comming out of the tail-pipe?
Let me try and explain wit happened again.
I am on my way 2 visit my mom, I'm on the freeway and I start to here some rattling noises.
It sounded to me like the noise was coming from underneath the car,kinda sounded like some piping was commingle loose.
After a few moments of listening hit the gas and got on the boost from the beginning of third gear. Half way through 4th gear I felt a sudden power loss (my oh Shiite! Moment).

At that point I was comming up to my exit and decided to nurse the car an additional 4 blocks to my moms house.
By this time it sounded like some1 dropped a bag of marbles. Into my engine. I the car towed 2my Nissan dealer. The next day. That's when I saw that 4 bolts were missing from the compressor housing and oil was dripping from the Turbo. Also a stream of oil was comming out of the tail pipe.

I'm not a mechanic, and I wont apologize for not being one.
Most of u probably know alot more than I do about cars.

With that said, I am by no means an idiot.
Many of u blame me, judge me, attack me,assume 2 know wut happened or wit kind of a guy I am, and complain about my grammar.( 90% of posts r filled with errors )

My first thought was that this f-ing thing fell apart causing oil the oil loss, and since the bolts obviously were not tightened to specifications this must be negligence by sts. Some of u guys have told me losing those housing bolts could not have caused any oil loss.

At any rate I still don't see how this is my fault.
I bought my kit from a company apparently u all love and trust. And I had it professionaly installed buy a company recommended by sts. If sts is not liable then I'm sorry 4 saying so, but I stand behind my opinion about their customer service. If any thinks they know what could have happened fill free to chin in.
PS. Checked my oil at 100 miles and 500 miles with no loss, and I was planning on changing at 2000 miles and sending a sample to Blackstone but my engine didn't last that long.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blwn_By_Twins
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OP, sorry to hear about your situation, but you join here to bash a company and communicate that way and that's the response you'll get. And just because your 42 doesn't mean not a kid. Personally I'm a 33 year old kid.
Not true. I am n2deepnot2keep on my phone (big fingers= worse grammar) and I am schitztane when I use my computor.

I have been a member under schitztane for a couple of years now.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hellsoldiers08
basically he is blaming sts for his engine going BOOm! Either way im sorry for your lost but turbo manufactures are not required to replace your engine if it goes grenade on you.
That the risk you take when going F.I. I know the turbo was acting up and so on and so on, but point being is some engines last longer than others on the vq35, you got the short end of the stick.

Im sorry if i may of mis read anything but this is what i got from what i understood from your post.
I realize f/o is taking a risk. My thought was that since the Turbo comes pre assembled the bolts should be torqued to spec. 4 of the six bolts that bolt on the compressor housing were gone.
That's why I thought. Negligence comes into play.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bigcloud
Sorry to hear OP about your situation. Hope you get it sorted out....
Thanx man.
I consider it a learning experience and a good excuse to go fully built.

My new fully built motor is completed and has been started on a test bench with no issues. Install break-in and dyno tunning should be done with in a week or so!
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoDetour
In the defense of STS they provide a product not a service. You are not going to blame Panasonic for Geek Squad not installing your TV correctly. STS is a very overworked company and they take great pride in their product. You having the opportunity of having the CEO come and overlook your car is a true testament that you got great Customer Service. I am sorry about your engine but I have never heard anyone complain about HKS for blowing their engines.

Did you get a full Dyno and a Tune to make sure the car was running perfectly?
Was rick comming to look at my car really my opportunity or was it his to defend himself? Nothing wrong with that I just don't see it necessarily as customer service.

If Panasonic didn't tighten some bolts on my ty and my screen fell out and smashed on the ground, then yes I would blame them not geek squad!
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hellsoldiers08
basically he is blaming sts for his engine going BOOm! Either way im sorry for your lost but turbo manufactures are not required to replace your engine if it goes grenade on you.
That the risk you take when going F.I. I know the turbo was acting up and so on and so on, but point being is some engines last longer than others on the vq35, you got the short end of the stick.

Im sorry if i may of mis read anything but this is what i got from what i understood from your post.
U say some Vq engines last longer than other vq's, I got the short end of the stick.

So I got 1000 miles on engine after install and tune before it blew and I'm supposed to say...oh well some Vq's don't last as long as others? Get real man.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bottled Water
Op are you typing with your face?
Might as well be.
Giant thumbs/ small phone
Ill try 2 get better at it. Sometimes when I hit space it makes a period insted.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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I understand your anger. Motors are not cheap. What I fail to understand is why members continue to believe they can negate the risk of forced-induction with a built motor.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by abushong504
Wow, are you sure you didn't instal the kit yourself? I see a direct correlation to your spelling/grammar and the end result of your engine. Geeze.

I agree with the rest, unfortunately it seems like you brought all this on yourself. Or could have at least prevented most of it.

GL on your next 9 grand build.
With my spelling and grammar aside, I fail to see how this is my fault,or how I could have prevented it.

I'm starting to think sts has people monitor this site, ready to pounce on anyone who has anything to say about them.

Like I said I bought the kit from ur beloved sts and had it professionaly installed by an sts recommended tuner.

I checked the oil at 100/500 miles.
Engine died at 1000 miles.

Please tell me how this is my fault or wit I could have done to prevent this!!
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I understand your anger. Motors are not cheap. What I fail to understand is why members continue to believe they can negate the risk of forced-induction with a built motor.
I hear ya.
Show me a built motor @ 18lbs of boost or more with atleast 60k boosted miles on it!

That's why I'm not going over 14 pounds with my set-up that is supposed to handle over 700whp safely.

That should put me around 500 to 525 whp. U don't see alot of builds over 550whp that has alot of miles on it.

If I get 50k on mine ill be happy.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Later, if possible, I would like to see photos of the inside of the motor. The motor is destroyed? Where exactly did it fail?
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SCHITZTANE
I hear ya.
Show me a built motor @ 18lbs of boost or more with atleast 60k boosted miles on it!

That's why I'm not going over 14 pounds with my set-up that is supposed to handle over 700whp safely.

That should put me around 500 to 525 whp. U don't see alot of builds over 550whp that has alot of miles on it.

If I get 50k on mine ill be happy.
again, if you sleeved your block, good luck with that
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
again, if you sleeved your block, good luck with that
Ok, since you r begging me 2 ask...
Wits wrong with sleeving the block?

Are you drinking the Alberto kool-aid?
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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No need for sleeves when your aiming for 500-600whp.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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i dunno, how about start with stop driving when you see oil under your car....

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
soil dripping from turbo and a river of oil comming out the tail pipe.
Originally Posted by SCHITZTANE
With my spelling and grammar aside, I fail to see how this is my fault,or how I could have prevented it.
Please tell me how this is my fault or wit I could have done to prevent this!!

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I have had nothing but problems with sts, i will never put one on my z after my WS6 sat for 13 months in a finger pointing match. first they send me a white pump (oil) when i should have had the black one. This caused the turbo to blow its seals since it received too much pressure and i became spy hunter. With a blown turbo on a car that just started and moved to the dyno literally a 40 foot crawl. STS pointed at precision and visa versa. STS was so unwilling to budge since the car didnt have a stock motor, like that had something to do with it since it draws from oil pan and dumps in oil fill. After months of no stop calls, email, letters. Precision said they will fix the turbo. STS now says the kit is void on warranty since they did not provide the turbo. Longer story short STS is another great idea poorly managed. I even met with the president at sema and he personally knows the case, but cannot do anything about it since he is "removed" from the companies warranty issues since he is more on the R&D side. I would recommend that they not be used by any person other than a C5 or C6 (corvette) owner looking for a no modification kit.

and thats all that can be said about that
im off my soap box
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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[ QUOTE=abushong504;8855492]Wow, are you sure you didn't instal the kit yourself? I see a direct correlation to your spelling/grammar and the end result of your engine. Geeze.

I agree with the rest, unfortunately it seems like you brought all this on yourself. Or could have at least prevented most of it.

GL on your next 9 grand build.[/QUOTE]

Bad spelling and grammar = blown engin.

Ummmmm,ok.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Later, if possible, I would like to see photos of the inside of the motor. The motor is destroyed? Where exactly did it fail?
The motor wasn't actually "blown", as it would sill start up and was fairly responsive.

I don't have any picts but the rods and pistons were in pretty good shape. The block had a tiny crack in it, rings and bearings were toast, timing chain had very minor damage and was tossed. The crank just needed to be cleaned up a bit. I had the crank cryo treated for more strength and durability, and my peace of mind.

The crank is the only part in my new engine from the old one.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
i dunno, how about start with stop driving when you see oil under your car....
I never drove the car in that condition. As I stated... I had the car towed to my dealer from my moms. Not being a mechanic does not mean I'm an idiot.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by midz350
No need for sleeves when your aiming for 500-600whp.
I agree, but my replacement block had slightly scorched cylinders.

That's why I have a .20 over bore and sleeves.

Also with the gt35r Turbo upgrade I have the potential to make over 700whp if I get the icy.
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