Very nice!

 

The graph is smooth across the band. Do you have a dyno chart we can see?

 

Although I haven't had first hand experience with the PL kit, I can tell you that I have been the biggest skeptic of single turbos because they all had issues making power past 6000rpm consistently out of the box, particularly as higher boost levels are achieved. The TN kit's were absolute garbage in terms of quality and longevity which left a bad taste on many user's mouths.

When Bryan@Momentum showed up at our shop and said strap it down on the dyno and see for yourself I was stunned. Beautifully linear power curve right off the included base tune and 380whp on WG pressure on the Dyno Dynamics. Quality of kit is best in class. We will be installing our first kit on the 18th and we will report back with results.

Of course, no single turbo will have the beefy midrange of a pair of smaller twins but the results are outstanding is a great setup for the money particularly those looking to stay on a stock block. It's a couple grand more installed and tuned vs. a Vortech kit.

 

Yeah, when I was putting my car together I wasn’t concerned with what the final dyno numbers, I wanted to gain a lot of horsepower over my NA dyno and have a high trap (somewhere in the 11x‘s at Firebird in AZ). So the month I was going to do the PowerLab install I took the car to the dyno and got a naturally aspirated baseline, then I installed the kit and went back to the SAME dyno for a dyno tune.

Baseline - 258 whp (with cold air intake, test pipes, HKS exhaust, plenum spacer, and an Osiris dyno tune)

PowerLab GT35R - 360 whp (4 psi, HKS exhaust, plenum spacer, ProEFI computer)

Gained 102 whp on 4 psi (39.5% gain)

Edit: Even more if you factor in the amount of whp I gained over stock, my baseline already included a dyno tune reflash, test pipes, and intake, and that added about 30 whp over my first naturally aspirated baseline…

Same wheels/tire setup, same dyno, etc. …obviously different days, conditions were similar (HOT…July in AZ).

Not bashing I’m just saying that comment “it’s superior, or not comparable, etc.” isn’t really true, lol…

 

Nice to see this finally being put out...

 

Not bashing Momentum either... but I think it's a bit ridiculous and premature for vendors (especially ones with zero to minimal experience with the PowerLab kit in a shop, street, or track setting) to be making statements like "can't even compare this" or "best in class". And reviews from new Momentum dealers should be taken with a grain of salt for obvious reasons ($$$). Real world results and impartial reviews from end users are what really matter. But that takes time.

So it's way too soon IMO for superiority claims to be given any merit. Although there are striking similarities with how Momentum copied PowerLab's basic design and most components... don't forget the Boosted Performance single turbo kit either. If comparisons are going to be made between single turbo kits, the BP kit should be included in the discussion also. It has received positive reviews for quality and ease of install as well, and several have praised Sasha for his customer service. But that kit also lacks enough end users and real world results at this point to substantiate any claims of performance superiority.

It's nice to see more single turbo kit options for the VQ community. The added competition from Momentum will motivate others, including PowerLab and Boosted Performance, to improve their products ...which benefits the whole community.

 

i couldn't find the most recent one, this is before meth and the sp cutout at 20psi IAT was around 130

 

wtf is that?

 

Quite a few in depth pics, videos and graph of Momentum on a G coupe.

http://www.horsepowerjunkies.com/for...d.php?t=110331

 

we just wrapped up a build with the Momentum kit and it was impressive to say the least and it still has TONS of room to grow!!!

 

what do you mean by tons? its a single gt35r kit. by that very nature its very limited.

 

^ +1

are there turbo options being offered? Can you fit a bigger turbo in there? or is the 35r all that you can play with..

 

Momentum has a car wih a 37R on it.

 

Yeah, I was going to say it’s probably like PowerLab kit in terms of swapping the turbochargers out…

 

the only 2 GT37s that fit (without custom T3 turbine housing) are the 3776 and the 3782, neither or which according to Garrett are dBB.

The 3776 has a 55mm compressor and the 3782 has a 60mm compressor. Both smaller than the GT3582r. But it does use a 72.5mm turbine compared to the 68mm on the gt35r.

so in the end, and as we have seen, there's not much to gain by going to a gt37.

Just seems a little silly that in a wideopen market to manufacture a me-too product. There still must be a big marketshare available in the stock block/ limited hp single turbo arena.


The kit looks very good , as one would expect with a known standard thats been on the market for years

 

I mean what more could you want? 30 minute sessions of beating on each setup and no issues, that's more than impressive to me, just saying though

 

are you familiar with the 350z engine bay? (jk bud) Not exactly many ways to run things. They all have very similar placement for a reason.

I've been in this business for a LOOOOONG time. I have NEVER seen a manufacturer be as in depth, as close with it's vendors and close to the end consumer like Momentum has. They came to the shop, they shook our hands, they showed us their product and we loved it. We're looking forward to doing a lot of business with them and building some great cars with their products.

 

I can think of atleast 7 other combos that I can fit into this frame if the customer wanted. There is A LOT that can be done, just depends on experience and creativity

 

thats not possible with Greddy, GTM, PL, SFR, JWT, BP, APS?

The hp levels were very conservative and you'd expect any turbo kit worth its salt to be able to run 400whp all day everyday. Thats more a testament to a proper motor/tune. If they dumped in race gas and bumped it up to 550whp, that woulda been a great test to see how the AITs change, since that is the #1 issue concerning that style kit. That would have been a good evaluation.

any of those incorporate a 67+mm turbo? Which combo would be better than the gt35r/GT37? Cuz, sounds like PL or Momentum should offer it as standard kit.

 

oops double post