Momentum turbo kit RELEASED!
01-18-2011, 11:15 AM
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are you familiar with the 350z engine bay?
(jk bud) Not exactly many ways to run things. They all have very similar placement for a reason.
I've been in this business for a LOOOOONG time. I have NEVER seen a manufacturer be as in depth, as close with it's vendors and close to the end consumer like Momentum has. They came to the shop, they shook our hands, they showed us their product and we loved it. We're looking forward to doing a lot of business with them and building some great cars with their products.
(jk bud) Not exactly many ways to run things. They all have very similar placement for a reason. I've been in this business for a LOOOOONG time. I have NEVER seen a manufacturer be as in depth, as close with it's vendors and close to the end consumer like Momentum has. They came to the shop, they shook our hands, they showed us their product and we loved it. We're looking forward to doing a lot of business with them and building some great cars with their products.
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01-18-2011, 11:17 AM
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No denying it, the product’s damn similar to the PowerLab kit that was released 3 years ago; in terms of power gains my own results are damn similar too… I just don’t think they should make outrageous claims that wrongfully bash another comparable product, lol
And how many ways are there to make a Z/G single turbo kit? Well, in the past year Sasha/Boosted Performance released a new single turbo kit and Jtran Studios created a new single turbo setup as well, and they weren’t last to the party either…
01-18-2011, 11:32 AM
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I see what you mean, there. Their kit, they can say what they want. We've been fortunate enough to test it, install it, dyno it and see if first hand and we LOVE it.
01-18-2011, 11:59 AM
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Yeah, but I think the issue has to do with the “you can’t compare this kit”, “no reason to consider any other kit”, etc. comments…
No denying it, the product’s damn similar to the PowerLab kit that was released 3 years ago; in terms of power gains my own results are damn similar too… I just don’t think they should make outrageous claims that wrongfully bash another comparable product, lol
And how many ways are there to make a Z/G single turbo kit? Well, in the past year Sasha/Boosted Performance released a new single turbo kit and Jtran Studios created a new single turbo setup as well, and they weren’t last to the party either…
No denying it, the product’s damn similar to the PowerLab kit that was released 3 years ago; in terms of power gains my own results are damn similar too… I just don’t think they should make outrageous claims that wrongfully bash another comparable product, lol
And how many ways are there to make a Z/G single turbo kit? Well, in the past year Sasha/Boosted Performance released a new single turbo kit and Jtran Studios created a new single turbo setup as well, and they weren’t last to the party either…
...And neither the BP or JTran setups look like each other or anything like a PL/Momentum style kit.As the old saying goes... "Imitation is the greatest form of flattery."
01-18-2011, 12:35 PM
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Just my opinion.
01-18-2011, 12:56 PM
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I apologize to anyone feeling otherwise. We at Momentum Performance do not have this idea in our marketing plan nor will we ever. We respect every manufacturer in their efforts and applaud them for their work.
We are here to push forward the industry and we perceive competitor bashing as counterproductive in doing so.
We are here to push forward the industry and we perceive competitor bashing as counterproductive in doing so.
01-18-2011, 01:33 PM
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And what precisely is that supposed to prove?
I guess this is where I’d raise you one and post a dyno of Intense’s green G35…but I’m not going to, because a) what would that really accomplish? and b) the PowerLab kit has been around for 3 years, everyone’s already seen what their car dyno’d at.
Also, I figured as a momentum deal you’d probably have already read their blog post but in case you missed it:
I guess this is where I’d raise you one and post a dyno of Intense’s green G35…but I’m not going to, because a) what would that really accomplish? and b) the PowerLab kit has been around for 3 years, everyone’s already seen what their car dyno’d at.
Also, I figured as a momentum deal you’d probably have already read their blog post but in case you missed it:
Different dynos make different horsepower numbers for the same given car. Our director of sales took one of our test vehicles to multiple shops and dynos and got varying results from 375 whp to 425 whp. We see the importance of a dyno as measuring performance gains as a result of modifications made.
Check out this blog on our website talking to more detail about this topic:
It's all about percentage gains
Check out this blog on our website talking to more detail about this topic:
It's all about percentage gains
01-18-2011, 03:27 PM
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12 psi
i'm the owner of the Z that S&R did the install for. before i went with momentum performance, i had the greddy TT. the greddy served me well for over 2 1/2 years and almost 40k miles. around 1 year ago, i started to burn oil (turbo seal). i waited as long as i could. with the cost of removing both turbos and repairing them, i felt it was time to look at other options around.
01-18-2011, 03:56 PM
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12 psi
i'm the owner of the Z that S&R did the install for. before i went with momentum performance, i had the greddy TT. the greddy served me well for over 2 1/2 years and almost 40k miles. around 1 year ago, i started to burn oil (turbo seal). i waited as long as i could. with the cost of removing both turbos and repairing them, i felt it was time to look at other options around.
i'm the owner of the Z that S&R did the install for. before i went with momentum performance, i had the greddy TT. the greddy served me well for over 2 1/2 years and almost 40k miles. around 1 year ago, i started to burn oil (turbo seal). i waited as long as i could. with the cost of removing both turbos and repairing them, i felt it was time to look at other options around.
01-18-2011, 06:29 PM
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Can you dig us the dyno chart in regular scale???
That chart is so spread and skewed horizontally in relation to the vertical plane that it distorts the overall perception of the graph.
Since you've "been in this business for a LOOOOONG time", I'm sure you know that stretching a dyno graph horizontally is an OOOOOLD trick used by shops/tuners/manufacturers to make the powerband look thicker, make lag and/or drop offs less noticeable, and to make the power curve and/or tune look smoother than it really is.
I cringe every time I see a company resort to this tactic and shake my head every time I see somebody post such a dyno chart.
That chart is so spread and skewed horizontally in relation to the vertical plane that it distorts the overall perception of the graph.Since you've "been in this business for a LOOOOONG time", I'm sure you know that stretching a dyno graph horizontally is an OOOOOLD trick used by shops/tuners/manufacturers to make the powerband look thicker, make lag and/or drop offs less noticeable, and to make the power curve and/or tune look smoother than it really is.
I cringe every time I see a company resort to this tactic and shake my head every time I see somebody post such a dyno chart.
01-19-2011, 06:07 AM
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it was only at 12psi, buddy.
12psi and just straight pump gas. It's a forged internal build but std compression.
you took my posting the graph entirely the wrong way. I was trying to show what it has already done for us. There is no attempt to skew or alter the appearance of the chart. That's the format that the Land and Sea dyno plots the chart. You can see the power curve, you can see when peak torque is hit and no matter how you etch a sketch it, the numbers don't change.
Can you dig us the dyno chart in regular scale??? That chart is so spread and skewed horizontally in relation to the vertical plane that it distorts the overall perception of the graph.
Since you've "been in this business for a LOOOOONG time", I'm sure you know that stretching a dyno graph horizontally is an OOOOOLD trick used by shops/tuners/manufacturers to make the powerband look thicker, make lag and/or drop offs less noticeable, and to make the power curve and/or tune look smoother than it really is.
I cringe every time I see a company resort to this tactic and shake my head every time I see somebody post such a dyno chart.
That chart is so spread and skewed horizontally in relation to the vertical plane that it distorts the overall perception of the graph.Since you've "been in this business for a LOOOOONG time", I'm sure you know that stretching a dyno graph horizontally is an OOOOOLD trick used by shops/tuners/manufacturers to make the powerband look thicker, make lag and/or drop offs less noticeable, and to make the power curve and/or tune look smoother than it really is.
I cringe every time I see a company resort to this tactic and shake my head every time I see somebody post such a dyno chart.
