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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Some may and some may not know, but my possessed Z broke a camshaft. Don't ask how I do not know. I have talked to several well knowledge sources and I have my ideas, but will not speculate till the motors stripped down.

Ill keep some updated info in this thread as progress is made at
WIN Motorsportz (In affiliation with Redline Design)

Ill keep updated pictures and answer questions if anyone has any.

Backround on this motor. Built by Engine Lab/S&R Performance

CP Pistons
BC Springs and Retainers
5 Angle Valve Job
GTM H Beam Rods
HKS Head Gaskets
One of a kind Closed Deck Block
ARP Head Bolts
Everything Cryo Treated
Factory Cams(When the motor was built none were available)
HKS Twins with Forge Motorsports Wastegate's
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This car started out well over a year ago after being one of the very few stock block HR's to Blow. It snapped a rod in two at 500whp in less than 3k miles. The motor was then built at Engine lab and S&R Performance. Since has had many issues. Leaking turbo lines, boost leaks, ecu failures, sensor failures, wiring failuers. Ill be honest im surprised I still own a boosted Z after the headaches and money I have spent on this vehicle. Then everything started to work out I put about 7k miles on this motor then one day...Snap. The car sounded like a V8 after looking into it the Intake valves on the Bank 2(driver side) were not opening. Took the Cam cover off to find the pully still tight. You can turn the motor over with the bolt that goes through the center of the cam gear, but the cam does not rotate. So only possibility broken cam. If the key had broke then turning the bolt in the center would still make the cam rotate if not atleast move, but no such luck. So motors now out at WIN Motorsportz and should start to be stripped down here in the next week. I will try to keep this thread updated.
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Picture of closed deck

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Don't feel bad man, I'm on my 4th HR engine in ~14 months.

GL.
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Don't feel bad man, I'm on my 4th HR engine in ~14 months.

GL.
Stock Block? Or Built?
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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damn s&r in another questionable build.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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wow

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Originally Posted by Jasonvs2146
Stock Block? Or Built?
1 Stock and 2 built.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by midz350
1 Stock and 2 built.
Holy crap whats going wrong with em?
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Hope every thing work for you.

If I may ask how the closed deck work out with u ? U Input on it plz

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
Hope every thing work for you.

If I may ask how the closed deck work out woth u ? U Input on it plz
Well I haven't seen a down side yet. Car runs at the same temps it did prior to it being done. All in all I would say it can't hurt, but who knows if it helps anything.
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you're sick. why would you put yourself through this?
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sorry to hear man, surprised you put up with it. Hope it all works out for you bro
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I had a cam break on a DE the snout broke off it looked like the cam sprocket was installed with an impact gun

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
I had a cam break on a DE the snout broke off it looked like the cam sproket was installed with an impact gun
same happened with mine but my cam caps were loose.
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
damn s&r in another questionable build.


Unfortunately most of the local ones don't post on here
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 06:27 AM
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Can you elaborate on this?

One of a kind Closed Deck Block
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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*in for updates*
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Can you elaborate on this?

its actually a block guard like hondas have been using for years....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Super...Q5fAccessories


that being an example. It just closes off the top of the block. So not a fully closed deck... no cement poured around the edges or anything.. lol.
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More pics of the build and past.

Piston after the stock block blew up.... Any guesses what happened .... ?



Before Block guards during build....



After block guards were added and begining stages of the finishing... Work dont by Engine Lab.




Right before polishing....

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Damn that sucks man. Hope everything gets worked out.
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Originally Posted by weslutes
same happened with mine but my cam caps were loose.
Same with one of mine. No idea why it happened



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