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07-12-2011, 01:50 PM
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IIQuickSilverII: yes I agree with the main Idea, but I was talking about an over all package.
but yeah that's true I wasn't even thinking about reliability when I bought the kit.
It was greddy TT's, or powerlab. the only thing that let me fall in love with this kit
is the over all quality and the turbo housing.
btw what is wrong with the kenitex I guess it's the best plenum when it comes to FI.
I have seen few cosworth plenum leak when boosted.
it's a single welded piece so no seals headache.
but you might know something that I don't so please enlighten me.
but yeah that's true I wasn't even thinking about reliability when I bought the kit.
It was greddy TT's, or powerlab. the only thing that let me fall in love with this kit
is the over all quality and the turbo housing.
btw what is wrong with the kenitex I guess it's the best plenum when it comes to FI.
I have seen few cosworth plenum leak when boosted.
it's a single welded piece so no seals headache.
but you might know something that I don't so please enlighten me.
kinetix...seen them crack...not designed/optimized for FI
07-12-2011, 02:10 PM
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I know the 5/16 spacer is better power wise. but the thing that I was concerned about is
boost leakage. and a single piece plenum solves it.
If not, then I back to to a spacer or cosworth. It's always is trial and error.
plus Z1 motor sport did it so I guess it's not too bad after all.
boost leakage. and a single piece plenum solves it.
If not, then I back to to a spacer or cosworth. It's always is trial and error.
plus Z1 motor sport did it so I guess it's not too bad after all.
07-12-2011, 02:30 PM
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I’ve personally know 7 people running turbo or superchargers on 350Z’s/G35’s with factory plenums with spacers and not a single one of us had issues with leaks… it’s not an issue AT ALL, IF the plenum is installed correctly. There’s absolutely nothing to be concerned about…
07-13-2011, 12:46 AM
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the kit is the same as powerlab minus the ems... fitment may be a little better... but vs the price, i bought my used powerlab for 4000$ and installed myself plus my uprev tune and im still not even close to that momentum tuner kit :/
same performance + cost effective..
same performance + cost effective..
07-13-2011, 02:45 AM
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why is everyone debating and comparing. The topic was clear momentum kit owners.
I'm looking for feedback about the kit. I know that PL is a good FI kit.
I wanted to be a lil deferent thats it.
price wise this kit will save me money is the long run compared to your used PL.
keep in mine the life cycle of the turbo, lines, etc.
bottom line: don't hate on it cuz in the end it's a better version of the older ST's.
I'm looking for feedback about the kit. I know that PL is a good FI kit.
I wanted to be a lil deferent thats it.
price wise this kit will save me money is the long run compared to your used PL.
keep in mine the life cycle of the turbo, lines, etc.
bottom line: don't hate on it cuz in the end it's a better version of the older ST's.
07-13-2011, 05:03 AM
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After have the PL kit for 3 years, 2 of them as 'dialed in' years at 9psi, the kit has held up well. I the srt8's answer is right, we put focus on the KIT reliability, but really it is the motor. The only issue with the kit is slight rubbing and a couple weak welds that cracked on the dump tube FWIW.
I bet the Momentum would blow hot air just like the PL kit with a built motor about 1 bar, something tells me there is a limit we ST owners seem to have found with HP potential. I was thinking of a built motor, but if I'm going to have to buy all sorts of safety and supplemental equipment to reach not even 500 whp (meth, race gas/E85, N02), it's not worth the coin for the motor.
I'm not a proponent of ST's anymore on Z's because of the HP ceiling, I've told everyone who looks at my car to go GReddy and avoid the ST's since you will want more power one day and will shy away since you now need a new TT kit to get you to silly HP levels. Race gas and meth are not the way to go when you can do it on pump.
One question - what do you mean by power difference? Either way, TN, PL and M should all get you to the same POWER level, maybe the curve is different?
The funny thing is, those who still say 'naaww I'm going single' don't want to pay the extra Kroners for a motor drop and extra turbo $ difference. I hope they enjoy 375 whp forever...which is what they do all day long, at least they do that well.
I bet the Momentum would blow hot air just like the PL kit with a built motor about 1 bar, something tells me there is a limit we ST owners seem to have found with HP potential. I was thinking of a built motor, but if I'm going to have to buy all sorts of safety and supplemental equipment to reach not even 500 whp (meth, race gas/E85, N02), it's not worth the coin for the motor.
I'm not a proponent of ST's anymore on Z's because of the HP ceiling, I've told everyone who looks at my car to go GReddy and avoid the ST's since you will want more power one day and will shy away since you now need a new TT kit to get you to silly HP levels. Race gas and meth are not the way to go when you can do it on pump.
One question - what do you mean by power difference? Either way, TN, PL and M should all get you to the same POWER level, maybe the curve is different?
The funny thing is, those who still say 'naaww I'm going single' don't want to pay the extra Kroners for a motor drop and extra turbo $ difference. I hope they enjoy 375 whp forever...which is what they do all day long, at least they do that well.
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07-13-2011, 06:23 AM
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After have the PL kit for 3 years, 2 of them as 'dialed in' years at 9psi, the kit has held up well. I the srt8's answer is right, we put focus on the KIT reliability, but really it is the motor. The only issue with the kit is slight rubbing and a couple weak welds that cracked on the dump tube FWIW.
I bet the Momentum would blow hot air just like the PL kit with a built motor about 1 bar, something tells me there is a limit we ST owners seem to have found with HP potential. I was thinking of a built motor, but if I'm going to have to buy all sorts of safety and supplemental equipment to reach not even 500 whp (meth, race gas/E85, N02), it's not worth the coin for the motor.
I'm not a proponent of ST's anymore on Z's because of the HP ceiling, I've told everyone who looks at my car to go GReddy and avoid the ST's since you will want more power one day and will shy away since you now need a new TT kit to get you to silly HP levels. Race gas and meth are not the way to go when you can do it on pump.
One question - what do you mean by power difference? Either way, TN, PL and M should all get you to the same POWER level, maybe the curve is different?
The funny thing is, those who still say 'naaww I'm going single' don't want to pay the extra Kroners for a motor drop and extra turbo $ difference. I hope they enjoy 375 whp forever...which is what they do all day long, at least they do that well.
I bet the Momentum would blow hot air just like the PL kit with a built motor about 1 bar, something tells me there is a limit we ST owners seem to have found with HP potential. I was thinking of a built motor, but if I'm going to have to buy all sorts of safety and supplemental equipment to reach not even 500 whp (meth, race gas/E85, N02), it's not worth the coin for the motor.
I'm not a proponent of ST's anymore on Z's because of the HP ceiling, I've told everyone who looks at my car to go GReddy and avoid the ST's since you will want more power one day and will shy away since you now need a new TT kit to get you to silly HP levels. Race gas and meth are not the way to go when you can do it on pump.
One question - what do you mean by power difference? Either way, TN, PL and M should all get you to the same POWER level, maybe the curve is different?
The funny thing is, those who still say 'naaww I'm going single' don't want to pay the extra Kroners for a motor drop and extra turbo $ difference. I hope they enjoy 375 whp forever...which is what they do all day long, at least they do that well.
http://www.momentumperformance.com/m...lation__S__R/4
On top of that, on a number of our test cars, as well as my personal vehicle, we are making 550-600whp at 14-16psi. No modifications to the kit at all. Here is just one of many dyno sheets from such vehicles.
We also have turbo upgrade kits which eliminate any HP potential debate. We have the GT3794r kit which is capable of 800whp. We pride ourselves on quality and service. Everyone that is a part of Momentum believes in the brand and stands 100% behind the products. I hope that those who have experienced our products realize the thought we put into each aspect of every part.
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07-13-2011, 06:53 AM
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the kit is the same as powerlab minus the ems... fitment may be a little better... but vs the price, i bought my used powerlab for 4000$ and installed myself plus my uprev tune and im still not even close to that momentum tuner kit :/
same performance + cost effective..
same performance + cost effective..
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07-13-2011, 07:22 AM
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...but isn't the tune part of the "turbo kit?" I have a lot of friends with RB 240's (my background) that have blown motors with good/great hardware just because the tune was bad/to aggressive... as far as tuning goes, there are a lot of ways to make 400hp, even with the same hardware/ems
07-13-2011, 07:32 AM
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You've had that power level for a while haven't you George? If you have some time at that power level that should reveal some hardware issues if there are any... esp as a DD
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07-13-2011, 08:00 AM
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It's still a cookie cutter tune, regardless. It will work for some drivers who stay within the parameters the tune was designed for. The same can be said about every other pre-packaged tune. Granted this one may be the best yet, you can still blow a motor on it.
07-13-2011, 08:55 AM
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Is that on pump gas? nice curve though seems pretty laggy for a gt35.
Although it may surprise you, we actually make more power on less boost than the Greddy Twin Turbo kit. We made a video of a customer (who is on this site) who went from twins to the Momentum Single.
http://www.momentumperformance.com/m...lation__S__R/4
On top of that, on a number of our test cars, as well as my personal vehicle, we are making 550-600whp at 14-16psi. No modifications to the kit at all. Here is just one of many dyno sheets from such vehicles.
We also have turbo upgrade kits which eliminate any HP potential debate. We have the GT3794r kit which is capable of 800whp. We pride ourselves on quality and service. Everyone that is a part of Momentum believes in the brand and stands 100% behind the products. I hope that those who have experienced our products realize the thought we put into each aspect of every part.
http://www.momentumperformance.com/m...lation__S__R/4
On top of that, on a number of our test cars, as well as my personal vehicle, we are making 550-600whp at 14-16psi. No modifications to the kit at all. Here is just one of many dyno sheets from such vehicles.
We also have turbo upgrade kits which eliminate any HP potential debate. We have the GT3794r kit which is capable of 800whp. We pride ourselves on quality and service. Everyone that is a part of Momentum believes in the brand and stands 100% behind the products. I hope that those who have experienced our products realize the thought we put into each aspect of every part.
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