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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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Definately a nice curve. What exhaust/DP were you running?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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WRT "I was thinking of a built motor, but if I'm going to have to buy all sorts of safety and supplemental equipment to reach not even 500 whp "


I have a build block G , just installed the Momentum kit+headers , first tune on 91 octane , with conservative timing produced just over 500rwp @ 12psi on a DJ. Should be posting pics and graph within the week. The potential is there and it is not close to being tapped out at 500rwhp.

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eZg
Perhaps I'm missing something....but if the upRev tune is just a flash.....then it doesn't include tuning adjustments to compensate for different intakes and exhausts, right?
In certian circumstances, The tune can be modified and sent back to the customer for say a kinetix manifold. Our tune was developed on a 100% stock 350Z, so some minor changes are needed.

Originally Posted by Ruthless18x
It's still a cookie cutter tune, regardless. It will work for some drivers who stay within the parameters the tune was designed for. The same can be said about every other pre-packaged tune. Granted this one may be the best yet, you can still blow a motor on it.
Very true, just dont run out of gas.

Originally Posted by str8dum1
Is that on pump gas? nice curve though seems pretty laggy for a gt35.
yes, local 93 octane. It comes on fast and pulls to redline!

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Definately a nice curve. What exhaust/DP were you running?
Momentum 3" Downpipe mated to the Momentum Performance Dual cat-back Exhaust System.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by G3po
I have a build block G , just installed the Momentum kit+headers , first tune on 91 octane , with conservative timing produced just over 500rwp @ 12psi on a DJ. Should be posting pics and graph within the week. The potential is there and it is not close to being tapped out at 500rwhp.
Have a graph to post?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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I don't have the print out , I expect to get it and pick up the car next week.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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love to see it on an independent dyno. I 'made 400 whp at 5.5 psi' which was actually 320... dynos can do amazing things.

Can someone explain how one turbo is more efficient than the two GReddys? I'm thinking about this and not seeing how one is exceeding the efficiency of two

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Ruthless18x: I have no issue with the A/C what so even for now.
but I know I will have some farther in the future that's why I might wrap the down pipe
with thermo wrap and get the turbo housing boot "turbo diaper". this would solve any issue.

btw I did race with an APS TT, few houses ago. my car was all the way of
2nd, 3d, and 4th. after 5k rpm he started to catch up and then passed me.
pretty impressive for what my set up is.

and it doesn't really matters if you are TT or ST if you have the same comprising power.
2x18g compared to a GT35 would probably gives almost the same if not less then the GT35.

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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Momentum... Post the dyno video where you made more hp than the greddy with same amount boost. I cant wait to get this kit next spring.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Thats taken from S&R's claim from their website
http://www.momentumperformance.com/m...lation__S__R/4

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Momentum... Post the dyno video where you made more hp than the greddy with same amount boost. I cant wait to get this kit next spring.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dj lizard
Ruthless18x: I have no issue with the A/C what so even for now.
but I know I will have some farther in the future that's why I might wrap the down pipe
with thermo wrap and get the turbo housing boot "turbo diaper". this would solve any issue.

btw I did race with an APS TT, few houses ago. my car was all the way of
2nd, 3d, and 4th. after 5k rpm he started to catch up and then passed me.
pretty impressive for what my set up is.

and it doesn't really matters if you are TT or ST if you have the same comprising power.
2x18g compared to a GT35 would probably gives almost the same if not less then the GT35.
I disagree, unless you can elaborate further on what you were trying to convey.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dj lizard
why is everyone debating and comparing. The topic was clear momentum kit owners.
I'm looking for feedback about the kit. I know that PL is a good FI kit.
Why do you want feedback on a kit you already have?


Originally Posted by dj lizard
btw I did race with an APS TT, few houses ago. my car was all the way of
2nd, 3d, and 4th. after 5k rpm he started to catch up and then passed me.
pretty impressive for what my set up is.
This is worthless, as you could have been racing an old man like "Supercharged'G" who cant drive his TT car" lol. If this kit is so good, go put it in the 11's on stock block.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Well, I was there when we popped the motor in the old mule.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ADMAN
Well, I was there when we popped the motor in the old mule.
Yes, that is correct. To tell everyone the truth, we have popped a few engines with our R & D Mule. The necessary testing needed to ensure our products perform up to our standards has their inevitable consequences. The few motors that popped yielded a vast amount of data and showed us the boundary that we cannot cross over. The most recent version of our kit and tune have proven performance with reliability in mind. In the end, Our R & D program has budgeted replacement engines, so you don't have to.

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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dj lizard
I have seen few cosworth plenum leak when boosted.
yep they leak like a sieve when the end caps are not installed correctly, mine holds 21psi no leaks.

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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Why do you want feedback on a kit you already have?




This is worthless, as you could have been racing an old man like "Supercharged'G" who cant drive his TT car" lol. If this kit is so good, go put it in the 11's on stock block.
Fawk you Bert
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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sub'd for additional reading, research, and reference

considering this kit over the vortech
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by konxeptionz
sub'd for additional reading, research, and reference

considering this kit over the vortech
Do it Son...that's why i'm subbed as well
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Momentum kits making 500+whp on built motors seems pretty impressive to me. I mean the GT35 is not by any means a big turbo, at least not for a 3.5L engine. That being said why does everyone compare twin kits pushing large turbos to single turbo kits? Numbers wise...

Good example.... Wongy's G35 made 718whp twin 67mm turbos on 93 octane. Granted it's a 4.2L stroker which helps midrange and spool. Bottom line is it's using two GT35 size turbos to make the power the single kits are being criticized for not making. I think a better comparison would be to look at Hal's GT42 82mm turbo. His 750+whp may not be at the top of the hp list on my350z but somehow his car beat SP's 1000+whp shop car in the 1/4 mile.

Me personally, I don't know what to do for a turbo kit. I've been biting my time with cosmetic things, suspension, and motorcycles. I've always been a fan of Sound Performance's setup keeping the turbos out of the engine bay but also love the show and go of the PL and Momentum kits. Not to mention simplicity, only one turbo, half the potential problems.

Guys I think we're all a little to obsessed with peak numbers and getting burned by someone who pulle on you. Since when did 500-600whp become a disappointment?

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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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so yeah here is a lil update. here is the vid of the race 350z ST vs G35 TT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-As...layer_embedded
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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^^ Is that a street racing video? Street racing is always the coolest. Theres not even one of those wussy concrete medians between the racers and the innocent, road using public trying to get home from work. Now that's hardcore!!
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