Witch hunt? haha u know what, since youre so knowledgeable why haven't anyone of you answered tge question yet? Why was there no license? Damn alex must have given you guys a great experience to continue coming in here, avoid the main topic and try and disprove FACTS

 

Answer the question or GTFO of this thread....where's the license? You dont know! I'll tell you why you dont know. You werent there, you didnt tune the car and you know nothing about uprev....DJ Amps proved that earlier in this thread

 

Nobody has avoided the main topic other than you. You guys jump around topics back and forth. You want to talk about all kinds of other things.

Quite obviously, nobody knows where the license went. But unfortunately for your case, that does not mean that it was never there.

 

You dont know either! and djamps didnt prove anything. nobody was born knowing the osiris... I went through a lot of hands on experience on the street and dyno to learn it, and have ended up with AMAZING results. maybe djamps knows the software too, but ill promise you he couldnt make my 370z run any better than it does now. do YOU know anything at all about the uprev software? How many hours experience in the software would you say that YOU have?

 

^ you spoke about injectors for like 3 pages but you didnt avoid the main topic? Give me a break. If you have no valuable input then just GTFO of the thread. AGAIN, you just said you dont know where the license went. So that's your input. KTHANKSBYE

 

U sound like a little high school girl with that reply.. I'm not accusing u of **** call a spade a spade.. u sound like the paranoid one..

In All seriousness I'd be more than happy to speak one on one with u via Fon, this back n forth does nothing for the validity of this claim..

At this point n correct me if I'm wrong I never referred to PM as scam artist, I am asking a simple question.

Where did the license go?
He clearly called and got no where fast, so he went public with this in hopes they would then try n rectify the situation..

Wat do u think he should stay shut like the rest of the forum herbs u guys take advantage of..

If I were pm I would try n resolve this issue without it ever escalating to this point.. a simple guess at y the uprev license was gone would have been sufficient instead of forum members discussing it amongst themselves and coming up with the best scenario to hello ease the greasing...

 

So you tuned your 370z is what your saying?

 

KTHANKSBYE!

Rotmff......

 

injectors were not my idea to talk about. but its a good thing i called you guys out on the injector issue because it turns out that PM simply lost only an Oring, which are considered disposable parts anyway. and that someone else made him pay for an entire new set of injectors simply because of a missing oring... so we were able to resolve one issue of accusation against PM.

you have no valuable input either. the only thing you are capable of doing is saying "where did the license go?" "so wheres the license?" "why was the license gone" "what happened to the license?" "someone tell me where the license went"

 

yup, 100% myself. nobody has laid a finger in my laptop but me. i have always tuned my own cars, including my 350z which was the first FCON 350z in the US and my first time tuning it made the stock block horsepower record in september of 2004. Aside from countless customer cars, none of which have ever had a failure. I have stock block TT 350z's that I tuned in 04-05 still on the road to this day. I may not have used the UpRev until 370z's, but that doesnt mean I dont know how this **** works.

my 370z made 523rwhp at 7.5psi dynojet. 35,000 miles on the stock engine havent even pulled the sparks plugs out yet. just over 7,000 miles since i put the turbos on. abused miles, beat this car into the ground. currently run it at 9.5psi, not sure on the power at that boost but probably 560-570 dynojet.

conversations with Andrew at PM, Vince at RT, and Jared at UpRev is how I built confidence in what i was doing while learning the software. because, well, its no secret that its not entirely clear WTF you are doing in that software or what is going on inside the ECU. With no solid foundation or information on what precisely is what in there, its hard to feel confident just jumping in first time tuning a twin turbo car.

 

Are you making an accusation against me now? When you say "u guys" it sort of sounds like you are saying that I have taken advantage of someone. Lets hear it.


i can agree there, however that all depends on if they even know about this thread. I have never seen them post a whole lot.

 

If something slipped through the cracks on this one, OK fine... then I am wrong... but I know they didnt rip anyone off on purpose and the witchhunts really get me annoyed.[/QUOTE]

That someone else was Vince at R/T Tuning but you're saying you're not accusing him of anything? And Yes I can put valuable input in this thread. My car had a shitty tune Russel's car had no license. My shitty tune was fine b/c I paid for the tune and he didnt do a good job but a job was done. Russel paid for a license and a tune which he cant prove that no tune was attempted to be done...however, we can prove there was no license.

 

I asked if you tuned your car not your life story anyway if you tune with the uprev and you cant give an answer as to why there's no license then so be it. Wait for PM to reply. Can we agree on that? Or should we just continue this thread for a few more pages of you asking me the same question and getting the same answer and myself asking you the same question and giving you the same answer?

 

When I said "there's no relationship", that was not in regard to me versus PM. Hence why I stated several times later that there is a relationship.

When I said "there's no relationship", it was immediately following "I dont care if I sell products". Meaning that, there is no relationship to that fact that I sell products. That sentence was directly after I said "I am entitled to have my own opinions".

Lets put that all together. I am entitled to have my own opinions. I dont care if I sell products. There is no relationship.

OK, using basic english comprehension I hope you have concluded that I feel there is no relationship to me having my own opinions and my selling products to members of this forum for profit.

I was not talking about my relationship with PM, you, my ex gf, or anyone else, with your quoted statement.

 

OK see now if you want to talk about the injectors again... I am not accusing Vince of anything. If Vince insisted that a missing injector o-ring warrents purchasing an entire set of o-rings, then he was very wrong.

But, I someone doubt that ever happened. What I do think happened... is that somewhere along the line, you guys accidently through Vince under the bus when you got called out on the entire new set of injectors issue.

So the real question here is... ARE YOU ACCUSING VINCE of not knowing injector o-rings are replaceable?

I surely wont accuse him of anything, he has posted a single word here, so I have no comment about him at all.

But it sure does sound like you guys are claiming he insisted you have to buy a new set of injectors over a missing o-ring. Is that true?

 

U must not be on the forum much anymore cause every time they tune a car successfully they write a story about it..
I kno for a fact that both Alex n Anthony have been messaged and informed they should chime in...

Next is a Fon call direct to their shop to inform them once again that this thread is taking place..


As far as my accusations with PPL being taken advantage of it happens to all walks of life.. I own my own business and make good money doing so, do u think if I gave breaks to everyone I'd be able to pay u guys for your over priced pumps.. That is jus a little humor, I like the twin... But I hope u get my point.. Its called commerce and most of the civilized world operates on these same principles to make profit..

So yes I am saying that all businesses scam one way or the other...
U and I are no different, only I admit that I do take advantage of my customers....

And by stating that on this forum or any other my business wont suffer.. As for u, we both kno u can't say the same...

This isn't about u tho phunk its about a company coming in and reaching out to Russell..

The injector was jus part of the story.. u think he would of wrote a thread if the ****ing o ring was the only thing missing.. I sure would not post in that!

Lets agree on something then, n that is where is PM and Wats their stance in this matter!

 

why are you so concerned if PM replies or not. Pick up the phone and call them. why continue this BS on the forums. Obviously no one will have an answer where the tune went. PM is not responsible for the car as soon as it leaves its doors. Going thru the trouble of making a false dyno chart is ridiculous. You can just tell by their FB page they work on tons of VQs.

You guys never bothered to double check their work. Its that simple. You guys are as much at fault as they are. If you feel you dont have to double check other people's work, you are noob as they come and there's nothing more anyone can help you with.

this thread isnt going anywhere. No one can answer where the tune went and PM cant prove that the tune was not somehow removed by the OP. Its words against words. If the car was running that poorly, then you make the time to get it fixed immediately. A year later is crazy. I guarantee if you pushed the issue as hard as you are pushing this thread, you woulda had your car into that shop within weeks of that tune

 

Obviously you dont care about any relationships between you and you're customers b/c you clearly said that you dont want people like us (which means ppl who dont sit back and take **** from vendors who mess up and dont give answers) as you're customers. You sound like a great business man to me. Now are we done here? Or is this thread going to continue about more useless **** that involves you, when in fact this thread is about performance motorsport

 

Read through this entire thread...I called them back two days after getting our cars back. They said bring the cars. I said when, they kept saying they were busy and avoided my calls. It was Winter by that time and we waited till this year to retune the cars. I've called again since this past Friday and was left on hold for 15min once I told them who it was.


EDIT:: we didnt bother going back there b/c of the customer service. The only reason this thread was made now was b/c of the missing license. But for anyone who reads this thread if you think we're lying, what do we have to gain from it? Whoever wants to take there cars there by all means go ahead. We tried to look out for other members on the board, but for those of you who dont care or think we've gone out of our ways to make this up then by all means go over there and give them your business. I know myself and quite a few others will not be doing so

 

yeah they do that to everybody they put you on hold for a long time and never return calls